Post by Besiege on Mar 20, 2007 10:00:13 GMT
Based on other Prismatic builds which should do nicely in Hells
Can go STR and even DEX (about 130 AC)
Class: 5 Paladin/5 Harper Scout/30 Shadow Dancer
Race: Prismatic
Alignment: Lawful Good
Class progress: 5 Paladin/4 HS/10 SD/1 HS/20 SD
Stats creating/starting/40/60 with items:
Str 15 17 30 58 (60 with artifact)
Dex 15 13 13 25
Con 14 14 14 26
Int 13 12 12 12
Wis 11 11 11 23
Cha 8 10 10 22
Skills:
During the first 5 levels put 4 points into Discipline, 6 points into Lore, 4 into Search and 8 points into Persuade (for HS)
At level 6-10 put 8 points into Move Silently, 10 Points into Hide and at least 5 points into Tumble (for SD)
Then max Tumble all the time, max Discipline at level 20 and then increase it when you can, max Concentration when you can (except the first 10 levels) and put the rest wherever you wish, for example Search, Lore and so...
Feat progression:
1-Luck of Heroes, Iron Will
3-Alertness
6-Dodge
9-Mobility
12-Weapon Focus: Weapon of Choice (scimitars are good)
15-Improved Critical: Weapon of Choice
18-Toughness
21-Epic Weapon Focus: Weapon of Choice
23-SD Bonus-Epic Reflexes
24-Armor Skin
26-SD Bonus-Epic Shadow Lord
27-Epic Prowess
29-SD Bonus-Anything you can (Epic Skill Focus: Discipline)
30-Blind Fight
32-SD Bonus-Anything you can (Epic Skill Focus: Search)
33-Great Strength I
35-SD Bonus-Anything you can (Epic Skill Focus: Lore)
36-Great Strength II
38-SD Bonus-Anything you can (Epic Skill Focus: Concentration)
39-Great Strength III
LLs:
Legendary Luck of Heroes
Great Strength IV-IX
Fully buffed at 60:
AB: 25 BAB + 24 STR + 4 Feats + 13 GMW = 66
AC: 10 Basic + 12 Tumble + 2 Armor skin + 27 Armor + 19 Shield + 16 Deflection + 16 Natural + 20 Dodge = 122
Saves (based on CBC-HG):
Fortitude: 25 levels + 12 stats + 4 Feats + 20 items = 61
Reflexes: 28 levels + 12 stats + 8 Feats + 20 items = 68
Will: 23 levels + 12 stats + 6 Feats + 20 items = 61
Conclusion:
Build with
50% fire, cold, acid, electric immunities
60% concealment
Re-roll for Mind effects
Immunity to Negative Energy
Immunity to Necromancy Spells
7 attacks per round
Improved Evasion
Very nice AC for a STR build
20/+15 Damage Reduction
Other SD abilities
Only 66 AB with +13 GMW (can get 73)
Nice Saves
Can get very nice damage reduction...almost invulnerable
DEX version:
Everything except below same as before
Str 8 10 10 22
Dex 18 16 44 56 (58 with artifact)
Con 14 14 14 26
Int 13 12 12 24
Wis 11 11 11 23
Cha 8 10 10 22
Feat progression:
1-Luck of Heroes, Iron Will
3-Alertness
6-Dodge
9-Mobility
12-Weapon Finesse
15-Weapon Focus: Weapon of Choice (rapiers are good but tough to get)
18-Improved Critical: Weapon of Choice
21-Epic Weapon Focus: Weapon of Choice
23-SD Bonus-Epic Reflexes
24-Toughness
26-SD Bonus-Epic Shadow Lord
27-Epic Prowess
29-SD Bonus-Anything you can (Epic Skill Focus: Discipline)
30-Blind Fight
32-SD Bonus-Anything you can (Epic Skill Focus: Search)
33-Armor Skin
35-SD Bonus-Anything you can (Epic Skill Focus: Lore)
36-Great Dexterity I
38-SD Bonus-Anything you can (Epic Skill Focus: Concentration)
39-Great Dexterity II
LLs:
Legendary Luck of Heroes
Great Dexterity III-VIII
Compare:
STR / DEX both fully buffed
AB: 73 (with 20 cap) / 72
AC: 122 / 132 (without artifact)
Saves:
Fort - 61 / 61
Refl - 68 / 85
Will - 61 / 61
Some comment:
Dex version seems better, but you have to keep in mind that strength builds do much better in Hells (again, I have heard) and have higher discipline. Then, the shadow evade is dispellable so it might me annoing to use it over and over again. I have also heard that there is some prismatic-death bug which doesn't apply some of your immunities. As for the AB, it is low. But the highest AC on the server should be around 74 (I hope this is not secret ). The bonus speed of HS doesn't work because of the same problem as with Freedom of Movement and so. However, the attacks do, but the doesn't last very long. I have reached immortality with the str build a few weeks ago and I have to say he did very well in all those areas. Quite tougher in desert because he cannot gain very good equipment yet at this low level.
Can go STR and even DEX (about 130 AC)
Class: 5 Paladin/5 Harper Scout/30 Shadow Dancer
Race: Prismatic
Alignment: Lawful Good
Class progress: 5 Paladin/4 HS/10 SD/1 HS/20 SD
Stats creating/starting/40/60 with items:
Str 15 17 30 58 (60 with artifact)
Dex 15 13 13 25
Con 14 14 14 26
Int 13 12 12 12
Wis 11 11 11 23
Cha 8 10 10 22
Skills:
During the first 5 levels put 4 points into Discipline, 6 points into Lore, 4 into Search and 8 points into Persuade (for HS)
At level 6-10 put 8 points into Move Silently, 10 Points into Hide and at least 5 points into Tumble (for SD)
Then max Tumble all the time, max Discipline at level 20 and then increase it when you can, max Concentration when you can (except the first 10 levels) and put the rest wherever you wish, for example Search, Lore and so...
Feat progression:
1-Luck of Heroes, Iron Will
3-Alertness
6-Dodge
9-Mobility
12-Weapon Focus: Weapon of Choice (scimitars are good)
15-Improved Critical: Weapon of Choice
18-Toughness
21-Epic Weapon Focus: Weapon of Choice
23-SD Bonus-Epic Reflexes
24-Armor Skin
26-SD Bonus-Epic Shadow Lord
27-Epic Prowess
29-SD Bonus-Anything you can (Epic Skill Focus: Discipline)
30-Blind Fight
32-SD Bonus-Anything you can (Epic Skill Focus: Search)
33-Great Strength I
35-SD Bonus-Anything you can (Epic Skill Focus: Lore)
36-Great Strength II
38-SD Bonus-Anything you can (Epic Skill Focus: Concentration)
39-Great Strength III
LLs:
Legendary Luck of Heroes
Great Strength IV-IX
Fully buffed at 60:
AB: 25 BAB + 24 STR + 4 Feats + 13 GMW = 66
AC: 10 Basic + 12 Tumble + 2 Armor skin + 27 Armor + 19 Shield + 16 Deflection + 16 Natural + 20 Dodge = 122
Saves (based on CBC-HG):
Fortitude: 25 levels + 12 stats + 4 Feats + 20 items = 61
Reflexes: 28 levels + 12 stats + 8 Feats + 20 items = 68
Will: 23 levels + 12 stats + 6 Feats + 20 items = 61
Conclusion:
Build with
50% fire, cold, acid, electric immunities
60% concealment
Re-roll for Mind effects
Immunity to Negative Energy
Immunity to Necromancy Spells
7 attacks per round
Improved Evasion
Very nice AC for a STR build
20/+15 Damage Reduction
Other SD abilities
Only 66 AB with +13 GMW (can get 73)
Nice Saves
Can get very nice damage reduction...almost invulnerable
DEX version:
Everything except below same as before
Str 8 10 10 22
Dex 18 16 44 56 (58 with artifact)
Con 14 14 14 26
Int 13 12 12 24
Wis 11 11 11 23
Cha 8 10 10 22
Feat progression:
1-Luck of Heroes, Iron Will
3-Alertness
6-Dodge
9-Mobility
12-Weapon Finesse
15-Weapon Focus: Weapon of Choice (rapiers are good but tough to get)
18-Improved Critical: Weapon of Choice
21-Epic Weapon Focus: Weapon of Choice
23-SD Bonus-Epic Reflexes
24-Toughness
26-SD Bonus-Epic Shadow Lord
27-Epic Prowess
29-SD Bonus-Anything you can (Epic Skill Focus: Discipline)
30-Blind Fight
32-SD Bonus-Anything you can (Epic Skill Focus: Search)
33-Armor Skin
35-SD Bonus-Anything you can (Epic Skill Focus: Lore)
36-Great Dexterity I
38-SD Bonus-Anything you can (Epic Skill Focus: Concentration)
39-Great Dexterity II
LLs:
Legendary Luck of Heroes
Great Dexterity III-VIII
Compare:
STR / DEX both fully buffed
AB: 73 (with 20 cap) / 72
AC: 122 / 132 (without artifact)
Saves:
Fort - 61 / 61
Refl - 68 / 85
Will - 61 / 61
Some comment:
Dex version seems better, but you have to keep in mind that strength builds do much better in Hells (again, I have heard) and have higher discipline. Then, the shadow evade is dispellable so it might me annoing to use it over and over again. I have also heard that there is some prismatic-death bug which doesn't apply some of your immunities. As for the AB, it is low. But the highest AC on the server should be around 74 (I hope this is not secret ). The bonus speed of HS doesn't work because of the same problem as with Freedom of Movement and so. However, the attacks do, but the doesn't last very long. I have reached immortality with the str build a few weeks ago and I have to say he did very well in all those areas. Quite tougher in desert because he cannot gain very good equipment yet at this low level.