Padril Shadow Stealer 5rog/5hs/50sd

[Parazia]

I have had several people ask me about this build in game so i figured what the heck i will just post it on here.
**All of the following is as best as I can remember**

Race - Hal-fling
Sub-race - Atomie
Starting stats(with racial bonuses)
Str - 12
Dex - 23
Con - 12
Wis - 6
Int - 14
Cha - 10
Levels:
Gonna say it now THE ORDER OF LEVELS AND FEATS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT!! Gonna say it again just to stress how important it is THE ORDER OF LEVELS AND FEATS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT!!
R = Rogue
HS = Harper Scout
SD = Shadow Dancer
F = Feat
*Didn't pick any pickpocket ranks at level 1 because of my
sub-race. there is enough skill ranks to get it at level 1 though.
**All stats taken are Dexterity.
***For Harper Scout Favored Enemies:
Lizard Folk - For Sithraks
Aberrations - For Ilithids and creatures such as those
these are just races that I Thought would be useful to me you can pick any favored enemy you want. The levels you would get the favored enemies if you follow this build are at character level 6 and 20 Harper-scout level 1 and 5.
1R:
F: Alertness
Skills:
Appraise:4
Hide:4
Move-Silently(MS):4
Persuade:4
Search:4
Lore:4
Tumble:4
2R:
F: none
Skills:
Appraise:1
Hide:1
MS:1
Persuade:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
3R:
F: Iron Will
Skills:
Appraise:1
Hide:1
MS:1
Persuade:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
4R:
F:None
Appraise:1
Hide:1
MS:1
Persuade:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
5R:
F:None
Appraise:1
Hide:1
MS:1
Persuade:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
6HS:
F:Dodge
Skills:
Appraise:1
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
Discipline:9 or as many possible
7HS:
F:None
Skills:
Appraise:1
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
Discipline:1
8HS:
F:None
Skills:
Appraise:1
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
Discipline:1
9HS:
F:Mobility
Skills:
Appraise:1
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
Discipline:1
HERE IS WHERE THE ORDER OF LEVELS AND FEATS BECOMES IMPORTANT!!
10SD:
F:None
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
11SD:
F:None
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
12SD:
F:Spring Attack
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
13SD:
F:None
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
14SD:
F:None
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
15SD:
F:Expertise
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
16SD:
F:None
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
17SD:
F:None
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
18SD:
F:Shield Proficiency
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
19SD:
F:None
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
20HS:
Skills:
Appraise:10
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
Discipline:10
21:SD:
F:Weapon-Finesse
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
22SD(Rest of your levels will be SD):
F:None
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
23:
F(Epic Dodge
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
24:
F:ImprovedCriticalShortSword
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
25:
F:None
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
26:
F(Epic-Reflexes
F:None
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
27:
F:WeaponFocusShortSword
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
28:
F:None
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
29:
F(EpicSkillFocusAppraise
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
30:
F:Whirl-Wind
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
31:
F:None
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
32:
F(ImprovedWhirlWind
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
33:
F:EpicWeaponFocusShortSword
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
34:
F:None
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
35:
F(EpicSkillFocusDiscipline
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
36:
F:EpicWeaponFocusShortSword
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
37:
F:None
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
38:
F(EpicSkillFocusLore
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
39:
F:Armor-Skin
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
40:
F:None
Skills:
Hide:1
MS:1
Search:1
Lore:1
Tumble:1
I put extra skill points into the following:
Pick-Pocket
A few in Craft Armor and Weapon
if have enough left i would recommend open locks.
Levels 41 and up the feats you will want are gonna be 7 great dexes(Maxes your Dex out at 62 with +12 from items and no artifact)
Skills - I would recommend taking everything but hide and move silently and get ranks in open lock. Tumble is good for extra 4 ac.
Notes:
You may use any weapon you want with this build but due to lack of feats I picked something I already had the proficiencies for.
When you read this and see that i took feats in epic skill focus and may think this is odd. but if you have ever leveled up a SD then you would know that the bonus feats they get suck big time.
Also the reason i didn't get Great Dex till LL is due to the lack of feats.
AGAIN THE ORDER YOU TAKE TE LEVELS AND FEATS IN THIS BUILD IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT!!
Strengths of this build:
- Very nice ac My AC at level 60 is currently 133 w/o Dex artifact(I am wearing BUR gloves though)!!
- Will have 60% concealed from Shadow Evade.
- Immunity to Necro Spells From Shadow Evade
- Damage reduction of +15 soak 20 at level 60
- Whirlwind that does negative energy damage of about 105 on failed will save 50 on successful save.
Weaknesses of this build:
- Low will and fortitude saves
- Very relent on weapon buffs like gmw.
- Damage is not as much as it could be.
- Can't carry much unless using an item that gives strength
On a side note the Level 50 summon is rather weak.
If you have any questions and/or comments please post.

[fusa]

Might want to take 8 strength and charisma at level one and boost constitution a lot more. Low con will hurt a lot especially in areas where you take damage no matter can hit you. Also discipline is a must. At the very least take 30 discipline and epic discilpine, or 40-60 if you have it as a one of your class skills.

[Parazia]

i did take 8 cha. atomie adds +2 and as for str that might be good but would = major encumberment i use bags on this guy and i still get encumberred A LOT.

[fusa]

There's items that max strength, might take a while to get them but once you do I would rather have higher con and more hitpoints than be able to carry a couple of hundered more lbs of gear. All my dexers now start with a max of 9 str, usuaully 6-8 and I have no problem carrying 3 pages of inventory, and act as a bank on runs.

[Parazia]

I have items that gimme str. I jsut prefer other items lol but i see your point. is nice. wish i would ahve thought of that when i made him.......well right now i have i think its about 750ish. which there isn't too muc htath damages me other then kb which i am pretty sure u have seen in the hells lol.

[FunkySwerve]

You need to post the build levels in the topic per the posting guidelines.
Thanks,
Funky

[Parazia]

oops hehe sorry bout that. i was in a hurry.

[FunkySwerve]

Don't apologize, just fix it already, lol.
Funky

[Parazia]

r u happy now?