The Hand of Torm 12 fighter/26 CoT/2 rogue

[sunkistwarrior]

Human, Lawful Good

Str: 18
Dex: 8
Con: 10
Wis: 8
Int: 14
Cha: 14

1. Fighter, Luck of Heroes, Power Attack, Cleave,
2. Fighter, Weapon Focus,
3. Fighter, Blind Fight,
4. Fighter, Str, Weapon Specialization,
5. Fighter,
6. Fighter, Skill Focus: Discipline, Expertise,
7. Fighter,
8. Fighter, Str, Improved Critical,
9. Fighter, Toughness,
10. Fighter, Disarm,
11. Fighter,
12. Champion of Torm, Str, Knockdown,
13. Champion of Torm, Improved Disarm,
14. Champion of Torm,
15. Champion of Torm, Great Fortitude,
16. Champion of Torm, Str,
17. Champion of Torm, Improved Knockdown,
18. Champion of Torm, open feat (Extra Smiting/Exotic Weapon/Called Shot/Improved Power Attack)
19. Champion of Torm, Great Cleave,
20. Champion of Torm, Str,
21. Champion of Torm, Great Strenth I, Epic Weapon Focus,
22. Fighter, Epic Weapon Specialization,
23. Champion of Torm,
24. Champion of Torm, Str, Great Strenth II,
25. Champion of Torm,
26. Champion of Torm, Armor Skin,
27. Champion of Torm, Great Strenth III,
28. Champion of Torm, Str,
29. Champion of Torm,
30. Champion of Torm, Great Strenth IV, Epic Prowess,
31. Champion of Torm,
32. Champion of Torm, Str,
33. Champion of Torm, Great Strenth V,
34. Champion of Torm, Overwhelming Critical,
35. Champion of Torm,
36. Champion of Torm, Str, Great Strenth VI,
37. Champion of Torm, Discipline (trust me)
38. Rogue,
39. Rogue, Epic Skill Focus: Discipline (told ya), Tumble and UMD,
40. Champion of Torm, Str, Devastating Critical, Discipline.

[hiryuu]

Did you pull this from another source? Dev Crit isn't an option here, or on most PW servers. You also have CoT as your primary class, so I'm not sure how much ESF: Discipline will help you.

[Balduvard]

Devastating Critical is disabled on this server, as stated in the Class Customization board on the docks. If you hadn't already, it would be a good idea to [TEST] the build on the server so you can make sure it works prior to posting.

EDIT: Curse you quickdraw Hiryuu

[sunkistwarrior]

Wow....ok didnt realize that I made a few mistakes....and yes its my build from another server that has devcrit...sorry.
I will leave the posting to DMs and peeps that have been here for year and years...
little advice though...if ya want to have an active board ya have to be supportive...I can easily go to bioware and find 10,000 epic builds to copy...i was just trying to get some constructive feedback on this one that I made...oh well...my bad

[hiryuu]

Different servers stress different build features, so a good build here would see similar issues when porting it elsewhere. You can try this build, but I suspect you will abandon it pretty soon into the Legendary areas, as I did with my first 4 or so.

Converting this for HG use, I would probably swap Rogue and some Fighter out for Monk (4 pre-epic, 2 post). That nets you Cleave, Knockdown, Imp Knockdown for free, and you still keep Evasion to go with those tasty CoT saves. I haven't seen much value in Disarm, but Imp Expertise would be a good feat to pick up.

Others may disagree, but I would also surrender those last two, very expensive, STR points to get CON up to 14. You WILL take major damage in this mod, especially non-dexers.

[doomsdaybringer]

yea... con of 10 way too low....my fighter have like 18 after subrace and now with 1k hp but i still think is a little bit low for me.

if u still want to do this build on HG as str base i have some ideas....
first is fighter 30/ cot8/ rogue 2
you should get about the same build....+epic dodge +lame fighter sercet
you would have less save unbuffed but max your save(+20) is not that hard on HG.

the other ideas is 12/12/16 fighter/cot/rogue..
you would get less feat but u can take tumble in LL to max ur ac and 3 live saving rogue feat like imp evison. you can take only fighter/cot lvl in pre epic to max your ab or take 4/8/12 lvl of rogue to get more feat to spend in epic feat.

[doomsdaybringer]

i personally would just go with 16 rogue/ 16 fighter /8 wm
+ive side
better crit range
better crit multi
better ac in LL
more skill point

-side
and little less feat
less hp

[FunkySwerve]

sunkistwarrior said:

...if ya want to have an active board ya have to be supportive...

But to have a useful board we must point out errors, so if you make mistakes like this, best thicken your skin a bit, because they will be pointed out, and frankly I thought hiryuu and baldy were quite supportive, despite your implication otherwise. They certainly gave helpful advice for reworking the build you posted, and for building in general.
Funky

[Lord FlashHeart]

sunkistwarrior said:

...I can easily go to bioware and find 10,000 epic builds to copy...

And 99% of them would be complete crap!

hiryuu said:

and you still keep Evasion to go with those tasty CoT saves.

CoT saves are included in the +20 cap to improved saves by magical means which is easily reachable through items and bardsong etc, it makes CoT saves virtually redundant.