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Post by Slayer on Jul 20, 2004 2:09:14 GMT
Then you're just using a picture to use a picture. We're not about that. We don't just add new monsters cause we haven't seen their model b4. Any lame old server can do that. In fact lots do! When we add zombie pirates, they gotta be zombies. How you gonna explain it away? DM "You walk into a room. A zombie pirate looking creature staggers across the floor toward you. It's lifeless eyes and rotting flesh scare the bejesus out of you." Cleric "I hold up my holy symbol and use my faith to drive the monster back." DM "Interestingly enough, they aren't undead" Cleric "Excuse me?" DM "Ya. They're actually normal pirates, I just thought that descibing that way would be cool cause it's new." Cleric "I'm outta here. We got anymoe Mountain Dew left?"
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Post by Higan on Jul 20, 2004 12:57:58 GMT
He's just don't like undead cause you can't crit em. Never built a cleric ;D So just go along making the area with undead?
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Post by FormerAdmin on Jul 20, 2004 17:19:46 GMT
So just go along making the area with undead? No, it has nothing to do with any character I own. The fact of the matter is, our MOD is heavily biased towards undead (they are EVERYWHERE), and I don't want to see anymore put into the MOD until we have much more variety. Why not look into the CEP and dig up some new monsters?
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Post by PapaSmurf on Jul 20, 2004 17:21:37 GMT
In my humble opinion there are not near egnough demons in this mod
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Post by Higan on Jul 20, 2004 18:29:49 GMT
No, it has nothing to do with any character I own. The fact of the matter is, our MOD is heavily biased towards undead (they are EVERYWHERE), and I don't want to see anymore put into the MOD until we have much more variety. Why not look into the CEP and dig up some new monsters? The zombie pirates are cep monsters, but i will look for others How about salamander pirates?
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Post by Slayer on Jul 20, 2004 23:15:36 GMT
In my humble opinion there are not near egnough demons in this mod I totally agree with this sentiment. The reason that you have not seem them yet is that I believe that the demons are the creme de la creme of baddies and therefore require special care in using. I want them to be BAD. I'm leading up to some right now (Mount P'Reeth) but I loathe the idea of building a demon based area just to build one. Sit tight. Demons are on the way!!
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Post by Rastan on Jul 21, 2004 0:30:53 GMT
if you want demons, the the abyss has your fill. afterwards, you wont want them anymore ;D
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Post by Slayer on Jul 21, 2004 1:23:00 GMT
What did you think Rastan? Brutality? I am hoping it will prove challenging for a party of lvl 40's. Sat, 20 or so ;D
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Post by Rastan on Jul 22, 2004 16:54:29 GMT
ewll, i havent been to the newest abyss yet, but i remebered all the demons there from the last couble of times I was there. I will be going there sometime soon though. my latest char. is already in the 30's.
Any chance of raising the exp from Tower ruins. the new Corpses take alot longer to kill,and from the many deaths of my party memebers the new enemies are also quite difficult. Yet, the EXp seems to be lacking there
BTW, anyone going into the tower should get bludging resist in addition to slashing, or else you'l suffer many deaths to animated objects
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Post by KyleShayfur on Jul 24, 2004 15:06:57 GMT
Well made my first trip to the new aybss. Lost a party of 7 by the first battle. After about the 3rd rez everyone bailed. Thought it was a little (ok way to) hard. I am sure with the right armor or immunity it can be done, but OUCH. 15 deaths to kill 5 creatures was a little too much.
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Post by Slayer on Jul 24, 2004 17:44:47 GMT
They hit hard and I left the number of spawns the same. The next update will see a reduction in the number of spawns themselves. This increase playablity and decrease lag. And you've got the right idea. Once you learn which defenses to take in there, your success rate will be much higher. The abyss is intended to be most difficult, and you will see a SLOW reduction in difficulty until a party success rate of 50% is reached. At that time, we will let word spread on how to conquer the Abyss and then probably start increasing the difficulty again. The Abyss is currently the climax of the game, and we want to make sure that it is something to be taken as a serious challenge.
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Post by Rastan on Jul 25, 2004 23:55:37 GMT
I'd say its closer to 5% Slayer. Higan,Dragonslayer(nonDM), Murdrax, and I(as RAGNAROK) tried it before the crash. Murdrax and dragonslayer were dieing quite often due to the counter damage. Without a Legion of mages the Abyss might be a bit too hard. It also must have created much lag becuase the server crashed before we made the first turn. In my humble opinion there are not near egnough demons in this mod Like the new look of the Demons though. Too bad we couldn't see them all yet But its way better than just Imps and Balors
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Post by Slayer on Jul 26, 2004 0:35:25 GMT
The Abyss is being revamped as we speak. It's open the toolset right now. Still gonna be tough (I recommend at least two mages) but it should be less lag and less simultaneous spawns. Also going to eliminate the ApplyEffects that each one has when it spawns and add them to their skins, so they should spawn smoother. We may be running into a rendering problem with one or more of the new skins, like we did with the Wemics. Haven't been ab le to isolate it to one specific creature yet. But the bulk of the problem is with the size of the area itself. It is 16x16 (256 tiles), which is 1.5 times the size of our 10x10 (100 tiles) rule of thumb. And that's got to go. We look forward to seing more people meet their doom in the Abyss in the weeks to come.
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Post by Rastan on Jul 26, 2004 1:15:47 GMT
Went there a second time and caused another crash. Next time we will be sure to bring along 10 dozen Elixers of Immortality each.
The Repulsive's demons ability to force you to flee is too strong. not only will it clear your action bar, but might also make you spawn another group of monsters.
BTW, Congrats on making a place even Mesron's Guardian can't beat
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Post by Higan on Jul 26, 2004 1:18:08 GMT
Ya, i also kinda find it wrong that the demons have even more resitance and are stronger than the eternal dragons
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