|
Post by StrykerOfChaos on Jan 2, 2008 18:12:22 GMT
This is my attempt at making an RDD character that I can use in possibly the deeper hells.
Subrace: Maelephant= +4Str, +6Con, Toughness, Heave Armor Prof., Large Size.
Starting Stats/Subrace Edits:
Str 16/20 Dex 10/10 Con 14/20 Wis 12/12 Int 12/12 Cha 12/12
I will change my Dragon Disciple to Black.
Skill Points: Lore up to 8, then stop.
(Bard) Lvl 1: Blooded (for LSA Tumble) and Power Attack (Paladin)Lvl 2: Lvl 3: Wpn Focus Halberd Lvl 4: Lvl 5: (RDD) Lvl 6: Cleave (stop putting Lore points in) Lvl 7: Lvl 8: Lvl 9: Lightning Reflexes Lvl 10: Lvl 11: Lvl 12: Imp. Crit Halberd Lvl 13: Lvl 14: Lvl 15: Great Cleave (Paladin)Lvl 16: Lvl 17: Lvl 18: Blind Fight Lvl 19: (Bard)Lvl 20: (RDD) Lvl 21: Epic Toughness I Lvl 22: Lvl 23: Lvl 24: Epic Toughness II, III Lvl 25: Lvl 26: Lvl 27: Epic Toughness IV Lvl 28: Epic Toughness V Lvl 29: Lvl 30: Epic Toughness VI Lvl 31: Lvl 32: Epic Toughness VII Lvl 33: Epic Toughness VIII Lvl 34: Lvl 35: Lvl 36: Epic Toughness IX, X Lvl 37: Lvl 38: Lvl 39: Armor Skin Lvl 40: Epic Prowess
Level 40 Stats: Str 42 Dex 10 Con 26 Wis 12 Int 16 Cha 16 AB: 43 Fort: 34 Reflex: 21 Will: 28
Lvl 42: Overwhelming Crit Halberd Lvl 45: Dev Crit Lvl 48: Leg. Reflex Lvl 51: Epic Will Lvl 54: Epic Prowess Lvl 57: Epic Wpn Focus Lvl 60: Legendary Wpn Focus
Lvl 60: Str: 58 (70) Dex: 14 (26) Con: 30 (42) Int: 18 Wis: 12 Cha: 18 (30)
Fort: 71 Reflex: 65 Will: 65
Skills: Max Disc, Parry, 30 Tumble, 8 Lore, Max Craft Armor/Weapon, Extra points into Listen.
Edit: Reflected the changes I made before this build. Currently level 52 and going very well.
|
|
|
Post by unnone on Jan 2, 2008 21:42:03 GMT
Black? I'd stay red.
Start as paladin. More skill points.
If you start with 10 dex, you're not going to have 10 dex at level 40 with 30 RDD in there.
|
|
|
Post by StrykerOfChaos on Jan 2, 2008 21:46:13 GMT
Yes you do, that's what the test mod reads They get no dex with RDD bonuses.
|
|
|
Post by atomicsomething on Jan 2, 2008 23:30:07 GMT
First, you dont need Blooded/LSA Tumble. With 50 Lvl RDD, the max bonus you can get from Tumble is 6 and you can reach this at level 60 with tumble being a cross-class skill.
I would boost DEX instead of WIS. Reaching 14 dex will allow you to wear Medium Armor. They're not always the best choice, but 3 AC is something you cant sneeze at.
As for skills, you should boost Craft Armor and Craft Weapon as much as you can. Items and buffs can allow you to reach +2 or the +3 bonus. Priority should be on Craft Armor for AC. Your skill points carry over in LL. Priority shoud be : Discipline, Tumble, Parry, Craft Armor, Craft Weapon, Listen.
For saves, @60 your reflex and will saves should be 59 and 62 respectively (i did not calculate Fort as it should be enough), without taking great reflex/iron will and their legendary conterparts (and with 14 DEX / 8 WIS) You dont need Legendary Will with such high saves.
You're missing blind fight, i would take it instead of iron will (taking Epic will instead Leg. Will).
Taking sorc instead of bard is probably the best way with a couple of Pally levels.
|
|
|
Post by StrykerOfChaos on Jan 2, 2008 23:40:39 GMT
First, what feats do you suggest I take in place of Blooded/LSA tumble? I chose those after 2-3 test variations because I knew it would save me skill points in the end to raise things like Craft Armor up to atleast 40.
I can make the change to Dex = 14 because that makes sense because I had planned on using medium armor anyway ^_^ Thanks.
I can swap blind fight for Iron Will.
So, w/o Blooded/LSA tumble (thinking, not actually saying I'd do it) what would I take? I don't NEED Great Str feats really....
|
|
|
Post by khaine on Jan 3, 2008 3:07:54 GMT
Copied from guild board, cos I know something(s) are wrong with my analysis. Always are (is).
|
|
|
Post by StrykerOfChaos on Jan 3, 2008 3:13:00 GMT
Okay, so question about the dev crit (because I understand the change made to the server) Is the extra multiplier (putting my gaxe at x4) not worth it? Also, those are epic feats where you are ridding my pre-epic feats. I can't get all those in great strength.
|
|
|
Post by StrykerOfChaos on Jan 3, 2008 3:53:57 GMT
-Edited- ^_^
|
|
|
Post by Trazik on Jan 3, 2008 8:12:10 GMT
Concentration skill might be worthwhile; might want to consider that instead of LSA Tumble. Alternatively, you could drop 2 Con points and put them into Int for 63 more skill points and get Concentration that way.
If you take Bard instead of Sorc (at level 1 since you have the Cha) then you get nice level 1 skill points and can take a second bard level at 20 and drop 23 points into tumble (costing only 23 points) and then top up Tumble to 30 costing an additional 14 points. The cost for doing this is a slightly annoying alignment change at level 1 (need a level 10+ friend and knowledge of the alignment change spot) and one again before level 20.
Hope that helps.
Trazik
EDIT to add: Choice of dragon disciple type is quite flexible. I would take a look at what UR/BUR immu rings you have before deciding between Red, Green, Black or White. Blue seems to be the least useful one as far as I can tell.
|
|
|
Post by StrykerOfChaos on Jan 23, 2008 2:56:55 GMT
Update: Changed the setup to what I actually did, stats at 60 are still projected though, will update again when build is done. ^_^
|
|
|
Post by StrykerOfChaos on Feb 22, 2008 10:54:35 GMT
This build is now waiting on Cania ^_^ Will post a screen of my build soon I hope.
-Stryker
|
|
|
Post by gren on Jul 25, 2009 15:38:47 GMT
Am using this build as a template for a more attack focussed version of my other RDD (Holyblazer based build with no Dev crit or listen) - using Half-Guardinal : good stats + evasion.
Am not taking the 2 legendary save feats as all are above 60 at lvl 51 and there are also 2 Epic Prowesses in the build above. So I have 3 legendary feats free.
I will end up with 96AB so dont think strength is an issue so was thing of LSF Listen (Maxed as a skill) and 2 x Grt DEX taking my dex to 30 buffed. Bane of my current RDD with his DEX of 24 is Erinyes dom.
Anyone got any other suggestions than the above. Not got any great listen gear hence LSF rather than ESF.
|
|
|
Post by flay on Jul 25, 2009 16:17:46 GMT
You seem to have epic prowess twice in there. Whats the base race you picked? Mael is any base race. I assume human. I think 1 level sorc is better than bard, that way you can use arcane scrolls and such without umd. Listen is one of those skills that needs to be maxed, extra points into it doesnt cut it. No divine might? It adds a lot of extra unresistable damage. I have more thoughts on how to build a dragon disciple in my universal soldier thread: highergroundpoa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=builds&action=display&thread=9495&page=1
|
|
|
Post by simpetar on Jul 25, 2009 17:05:05 GMT
I think 1 level sorc is better than bard, that way you can use arcane scrolls and such without umd. IMHO bard is in a way better solution than sorc, because of: 1. Tumble, taken on lvl 20 saves you 23 skill points (when compared to taking it cross class all the time) 2. UMD is just wonderful to have, especially with the random loot system and all possible restrictions. My RDD (23 hard points in UMD), even prior to demi and "right gear", had no problems reading scrolls in Nessus and now can reach 85 UMD in town with song. That is enough to use most (but no all) restricted items, including the crit ring. Sorc would not allow this. cheers simpetar
|
|
|
Post by flay on Jul 25, 2009 17:33:51 GMT
I think 1 level sorc is better than bard, that way you can use arcane scrolls and such without umd. UMD is just wonderful to have, especially with the random loot system and all possible restrictions. My RDD (23 hard points in UMD), even prior to demi and "right gear", had no problems reading scrolls in Nessus and now can reach 85 UMD in town with song. That is enough to use most (but no all) restricted items, including the crit ring. Sorc would not allow this. Which items in your gear setup give you umd? I remember it being difficult to find umd items. I've never liked relying too much on gear for these things since it can limit gear setups. Although 23 umd + 11 cha = 34 umd, which is enough for scrolls, and bard song will cover most hell penalties.
|
|