Undying Master of Weapons ( 32 Ftr / 7 WM / 1 Mo)

[fasut]

This is imho what a true Master of Weapons should be:
- To be able to use almost any weapon.

I'm not sure if this can be done with other subraces since Undying saves a lot of pre-epic feats. Maybe Kolyarut should be able to do this aswell.

Stats:
Start / Subrace / Maxed on 60
Str 18 / 20 / 60
Dex 14 / 16 / 28
Con 12 / 16 / 28
Int 12 / 14 / 26
Wis 8 / 10 / 22
Cha 8 / 10 / 22

Saves on 60:
Fortitude 63
Reflex 64
Will 61

Feats:

LvL Class Feat BonusFeat
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01 Fighter Blooded WeaponFocus - Club
02 Fighter 2 Weapon Fighting
03 Fighter Blind Fight
04 Fighter Mobility
05 Fighter
06 Fighter Power Attack Improved Crit
07 Fighter
08 Fighter Ambidex
09 Monk Cleave (Monk) Exotic
10 Fighter
11 Fighter Improved 2 Weapon Fighting
12 Fighter Great Cleave
13 Fighter Impr. Parry
14 Fighter
15 Fighter Expertise KD
16 Fighter
17 Fighter Impr. KD
18 Fighter Spring Attack
19 Fighter Whirlwind
20 Fighter
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21 Fighter Improved Power Attack Armor Skin
22 Fighter
23 Fighter EP > Str
24 Fighter EWF
25 Fighter EP > Str
26 Fighter
27 Fighter Weap Spec EP > Str
28 Fighter
29 Fighter EP > Str
30 Fighter EWeap Spec
31 Fighter EP > Str
32 Fighter
33 Fighter OverCrit EP > Str
34 WM
35 WM
36 WM DevCrit
37 WM
38 WM
39 WM Epic Prowess
40 WM
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41 Fighter LSA - Tumble
L Reflex
L Will
L Luck
LWF
Str 7
60 Str 8

Skills maxed:
Discipline
Parry
Craft Weapon
Craft Armor
Tumble

AB: 19+10+15+20+25+7+2+3 = 101 (-2 when dualing)
AC: depending on Items up to: 128 if i am not mistaken. 131 = 10 (base) + 20 (natural) + 16 (deflection) + 20 (dodge) + 12 (tumble) + 2 (armor skin) + 3 (dex)+ 26 (armor) + 2 (craft armor) + 21 (shield). Shield and armor include the cleric epic.

Pros:

• Weapons! Can use all CEP-Weapons perfectly.
  This goes from 2-Handed Heavy Pick with 16-20/x6 to Double-Scimitar with 11-20/x4 and 9 attacks/round or 1-Handed 16-20/x6 or 11-20/x4 + Shield. Or even 2 weapons with different crit ranges!
  
• But not only crit range matters! He can even use almost any damage-type in any combination!
  
• Has the fighter legendary skills:
  
  • 5 Rounds invulnerabilty
    
  • Mass knockdown (should i switch to disarm legendary?)
    
  • Epic Whirlwind => reduces physical resistances by 15%
  
  
• Secondary Concealment
  
• Epic Dodge
  
• Evasion

Cons:

• Lower HP for a "Tank" - But he isn't really a tank, rather a universal damage-dealer. So this is no real con.
  
• No crit-immunity
  
• Only playable with very good subs

What do you think of this? Going to play this soon!

[Torin]

- This build uses the fact that cep weapons are treated as Club....Maybe you want to have a look at this recent post:

May 11, 2009 15:37:28 GMT tyranlthixis said:

The problem is you don't need to add the CEP weapon focuses to fix this exploit. They just need to add a check to make sure you took exotic before you did the club feat. The fix could come any day. I would also add that posts like this tend to accelerate exploit fixes, so I would be extremely reluctant to advise anybody building this exploit into their build.

Tyranlthixis

- 1 Monk pre-epic is -1 BAB. As far as I can see, you take it only to get cleave (Pre-req for great cleave). Is it not possible to take it in epic levels i. e. at l20? Oh, this would harm your saves a bit I see....

- I would take the 7 WM levels pre-epic. The character would grow in power earlier, and that should also improve the saves.

- Is your AB calcualtion right?
AB: 19+10+15+20+25+7+2+3 = 101 (-2 when dualing).
The +2 comes from Craft Weapon, buffed Ok
The +3...? +1 from WM I guess.

[CataclysmicDeath]

Also correct me if I am wrong but if the CEP Weap focuses do come in aren't you then stuck with a character only able to use clubs

[fasut]

May 12, 2009 15:11:45 GMT CataclysmicDeath said:

Also correct me if I am wrong but if the CEP Weap focuses do come in aren't you then stuck with a character only able to use clubs

sure, but then i probably switch to the combination i liked the most while playing. double light picks?
About AB. I'm not sure about the +3. This could be more. In any case it's the bonus from the 7 weapon master levels .

[MightyKhan]

note that you do NOT swap eprowess for great strength. just strength
with that in mind, i imagine you might be able to get high enough AB without any focus or specialization feats to be able to use any weapon effectively. youll be focusing on crit immune mobs mostly, though, because youll have no enhanced critical properties.

[Deleted]

If you drop Strength to 54 and take 6 Great Dex feats you will still have very respectable AB and will be much more resistant to dex KD checks.

If you can fit Listen into the build then that would be very valuable.

But I would be very cautious with this build. It will be dev critted by the nerf club (well not really a nerf more of an exploit fix).