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Post by phalthallus on Oct 27, 2006 18:13:50 GMT
The CON hit isn't too awful, and you might even swap some feats for Greater Con to make up for it. Otherwise, the MOST you lose is 60 points, and from everything I hear, this build isn't supposed to get hurt that bad anyway. And yes, it does seem the SR would help it. I didn't realize about the 1 AB and AC - I had figured that being reduced to small would net you these. Apparently not. It's unfortunate that you're stuck w/ small stature losses (equipment you can use) but not get the +1 AB and AC benefits. Edit: Just realized that Pixie also gets Dodge for free, so that's one more "free" feat to maybe take 1 Greater Con. So you'd just have to find one more. If you don't go with exotic weapons, it seems feasible. Also, pixie gets to walk on sand, freeing up one ring slot in some areas. Doesn't seem like a terrible alternative to the others already listed. Maybe I'll suggest it to her. Thanks to all for their replies.
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Post by cathedralmaster on Oct 27, 2006 19:25:47 GMT
Otherwise, the MOST you lose is 60 points, and from everything I hear, this build isn't supposed to get hurt that bad anyway. I take back what I said earlier about Con. I've recently altered the gear on my halfling death to max con and have found that though it doesn't often make a difference in the desert or the other lower level runs, in the higher areas like beholders it makes a big difference. With maxed con, I can now stand in the middle of one of the rooms there alone with 2 devotees and survive where as before I was dying in every room.
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Post by FunkySwerve on Oct 27, 2006 22:39:53 GMT
I didn't notice it anywhere while glancing through here, so I was just wondering if there would be a major problem with doing this build with a pixie. My wife recently got that subrace, and is looking for builds to try with it. I thought this would be an awfully good one for her (she hates dying, and likes disarming traps and opening locks . Any reason not to do this with pixie? If you want a pixie build I can post my bard pixie, pretty much my fav character. Funky
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Post by phalthallus on Oct 28, 2006 13:18:15 GMT
If you wanted to do that when you get back Funky, that would be great! I think she would enjoy that character (and I would too if I get a Pixie subby anytime soon . I was planning on making one anyway, but waiting for Siren. If Pixie is better, I can do that, since I don't have either yet. Thanks!
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Post by bort on Oct 29, 2006 5:45:01 GMT
I'd be interested in your pixie bard build too Funky I've become very aware of how much bards rule recently and I'm itching to make one. Assuming yours is a dexer bard build(?), I'd be interested to see a successful caster bard build too (if anyone's made one).. Curious as to how it'd be built. Cheers. p.s. Sorry for off topic post Yue..
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Post by mrbadexample on Nov 3, 2006 12:09:40 GMT
What would be agood way to include the wraith in this build, I want a qraith rouge build and this one seems t the bet out there for rouges
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Post by mrslayer on Nov 3, 2006 12:41:05 GMT
My build is 4rogue/8sd/8cot/2sd/1cot/16rogue/1cot
Self conceal 5, epic dodge, great dex 10 epic focus and epic prowess all fit. You can also get imp expertise in this build. Use halfling race for the dex, and kukris as your weapon. IOf course you miss out on the wm bonuses but it is very costly in feats....
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Post by Senaattori on Dec 23, 2006 15:51:54 GMT
This is just teh best build ever =D Im playing it with teh derrzagon build and I love it!! x)
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Post by Senaattori on Dec 26, 2006 7:01:21 GMT
theres 1 thing I dont get.. how ur crit tange is 10-20
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Post by mishimayukio on Dec 26, 2006 7:20:09 GMT
The kukri starts at 18-20, improved critical doubles that to 15-20, a keen weapon triples it for 12-20, and 7 WM adds another 2 for 10-20.
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Post by spencer716900 on Dec 26, 2006 20:22:24 GMT
If you want a pixie build I can post my bard pixie, pretty much my fav character. Funky Funky has been tempting us with this build for quite some time. Hope to see it soon since I can't get my hand on an Shard. I'd love to give this a try.
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Post by Senaattori on Dec 27, 2006 7:42:54 GMT
me too. must get pixie subrace first thouhgh.... =D
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Post by Lord FlashHeart on Dec 27, 2006 12:50:59 GMT
Lol I think its a 32bard/7wm/1monk dual kama wielder or something near that, difficult to tell with pixies.
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Post by phalthallus on Dec 27, 2006 17:07:46 GMT
If you want a pixie build I can post my bard pixie, pretty much my fav character. Funky Funky has been tempting us with this build for quite some time. Hope to see it soon since I can't get my hand on an Shard. I'd love to give this a try. Actually the framework has been out there for some time: here. It's not fleshed out as well as some of the builds here, but the meat of it's there. Basics are: - 32 bard/7 wm/1 monk - take Monk at level 1 - 7 wm levels are all pre-epic - 8 greater dex feats - kama is weapon of choice - feats: blind fight, lasting inspiration, and all AB boosting feats He has some stats and other items over there.
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Post by FunkySwerve on Dec 27, 2006 17:59:48 GMT
Yup. I'll prolly flesh it out better after the hells are finished. Not sure how this wound up in this thread tho. Funky
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