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Post by illandous on Sept 9, 2007 4:02:40 GMT
I've been pndering a druid for along time since they are hard to come by in Hells now a days. Is there any chance this build could be made with Fallen Angel or is it feat tight to work? Or Kenku for that matter. I totally need to read the thread before posting.... It is updated for kenku
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Post by kdub on Sept 19, 2007 21:39:10 GMT
Out of curiosity - I'm reincarnating a shifter into a druid, so, sadly, he'll be 38 druid/1 monk/1 shifter From what I gather, the big loss will be no UMD. That being the case, would that change your thoughts on your build? i.e. Do I need to take Imp Combat Casting so that I can heal? If so, I'd imagine I should drop 2 Greater Wis? Or should I give up on healing, and focus more on my offensive spells or epics? Conceivably, this could also effect people if they ever wanted to splash Pally instead of Bard, although that sounds rather unwise... Thanks in advance!
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Post by dodrudon on Dec 16, 2007 10:15:11 GMT
With Trans/Conj/Evo foci already, what book would you guys recommend reading? I'm strongly considering Illusion for the physical vulnerability Creeping Doom inflicts, but that's only one spell and the epic sucks. I don't expect to be able to insta-kill anything with FoD either (pity Druids can't Greater Restore), and I hardly ever see Dust to Dust used either...
Abjuration also doesn't seem terribly useful, as when I play casters I hardly feel the need for such an epic, and it's only once per rest. I'd much rather CD's infliction than the Abj epic.
May I ask why you'd strongly recommend Necro and Abj?
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Post by tyranlthixis on Dec 16, 2007 15:14:03 GMT
SR epic I find makes a huge difference getting your party out of bad randoms/spawns or quickly winning major boss fights. Once you land the epic on a group or boss, you can pretty much chew through them with Firestorm, destructions or other such spells.. A well timed immute after well placed SR drop can allow you and your casters to drop bosses like Meph like a chump. You can land it from a good distance and it never fails to assuming you target the correct target. Once you land it you can count on using the whole time of your immute to land maximum damage on the target and should the target be alive you can always sanc if in trouble and revert to healing support of your tanks or rest for another go.
The necro epic is a 'save the party' spell. The problem is there is a lack of druids who know what they're doing and far fewer who can afford to take it. The necro epic is totally awesome, for example, on many of the spawns in nessus. Its not as important now there are a wider variety of spawn control spells, but in the right hands it can totally turn the tide of a fight.
Tyran
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Post by mishimayukio on Dec 16, 2007 15:40:08 GMT
I agree with Tyr, frailty is a must have spell, but the benefits of going max DC on a druid now far outweigh the benefits of getting dust to dust. Just my 2 円.
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Post by tyranlthixis on Dec 16, 2007 16:11:43 GMT
I dropped dust to dust epic for the present and future benefits of having more legendary focuses on my ordinary spells. But, I do miss it at times.
Tyran
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Post by Egg on Jan 24, 2008 19:16:24 GMT
Going back to MRbadExample's post, is there a chance of FA working with this build. If so, any chance you could post the changes needed?
I've not been past dis and I don't know enough about the changes and what's needed dc-wise etc. for deeper hells to feel comfortable to tinker on my own with it.
Egg
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Post by tyranlthixis on Jan 24, 2008 20:31:26 GMT
I can try. I'm working late tonight though.
Tyran
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Post by borges on Jan 24, 2008 20:47:48 GMT
Going back to MRbadExample's post, is there a chance of FA working with this build. If so, any chance you could post the changes needed? I've not been past dis and I don't know enough about the changes and what's needed dc-wise etc. for deeper hells to feel comfortable to tinker on my own with it. Egg If you don't tinker with builds, you'll never get good at making your own. No one said you had to actually spend the time to create and level up a FA version. Just take a stab at it and see what develops!
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Post by Egg on Jan 24, 2008 21:04:52 GMT
I have many builds from other servers from over the years, but I would rather gets to grips with a build and take them all the way so i can judge for myself the following time i do the build what needs to be changed, ommitted or included next time
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Post by mikekolba on Mar 31, 2008 0:01:23 GMT
OK,
Finally Demi'd my druid and was going to reincarnate to fix some deficiencies...
Would it be better to go 38 druid/1monk/1pally or 38 druid/1bard/1pally.
It's currently 39 druid/1 monk and I think the pally splash will help out saves a bit and may save me having to spend a feat or 2 on save related ones..
Opionion?
Mike
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Post by tyranlthixis on Mar 31, 2008 0:14:53 GMT
I think you need UMD or the Asmo belt. If you're not a demi yet, definately I would do bard/monk. Once you are demi though and can get a hold of that item, you have access to a long lasting reliable sanctuary. It still hurts not having umd, but you can "fudge it" enough with the belt and hellstore items to get by. The good thing about monk/paladin is you can skimp on save feats and go for 5 epics (with tome). For me it becomes a choice between Primal Cat and UMD. The monk paladin build is even easier at double demi since your paladin saves really start stacking in your favor. I have both and like both. I've considered posting my other build, but its nothing you can't figure out Tyran
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Post by mikekolba on Mar 31, 2008 0:19:23 GMT
Thanks tyran. Just the input I was looking for.
I'd be curious to see your other build when you get a chance to post it.
Mike
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Post by mishimayukio on Mar 31, 2008 4:34:55 GMT
Heres my druid, the info is the raw build format taken directly from my character file, so it may be a bit hard to read. The only thing you really have to know is that unless the feats on the first level are subrace feats or first level feats, they were taken in LLs.
1 Druid (19 HP) AE +21, Conc +20, Heal +63, Parry +20, CrA +1 Armor Proficiency (light) Armor Proficiency (medium) Shield Proficiency Weapon Proficiency (druid) Nature Sense Animal Companion Quick To Master Luck of Heroes Spell Focus (Transmutation) Spell Penetration Spell Focus (Conjuration) Greater Spell Focus (Conjuration) Epic Skill Focus (Animal Empathy) Great Wisdom VIII Great Wisdom IX Great Wisdom X
2 Druid (19 HP) Woodland Stride
3 Monk (19 HP) Cleave Improved Unarmed Strike Stunning Fist Weapon Proficiency (monk) Flurry of Blows Evasion Monk AC Bonus Greater Spell Focus (Transmutation)
4 Druid (19 HP) (Wisdom +1) Trackless Step
5 Druid (19 HP) Resist Nature's Lure
6 Druid (19 HP) Wild Shape Metamagic (Extend Spell)
7 Druid (19 HP) Wild Shape (2x day)
8 Druid (19 HP) (Wisdom +1) Wild Shape (3x day)
9 Druid (19 HP) Greater Spell Penetration
10 Druid (19 HP) Venom Immunity
11 Druid (19 HP) Wild Shape (4x day)
12 Druid (19 HP) (Wisdom +1) Spell Focus (Evocation)
13 Druid (19 HP)
14 Druid (19 HP)
15 Druid (19 HP) Wild Shape (5x day) Greater Spell Focus (Evocation)
16 Druid (19 HP) (Wisdom +1)
17 Druid (19 HP) Elemental Shape
18 Druid (19 HP) Elemental Shape (2x day) Lightning Reflexes
19 Druid (19 HP) Wild Shape
20 Druid (19 HP) (Wisdom +1) Elemental Shape (3x day)
21 Druid (8 HP) Epic Character Improved Elemental Shape Epic Spell Focus (Transmutation)
22 Druid (8 HP) Epic Druid
23 Druid (8 HP) Infinite Wildshape
24 Druid (8 HP) (Wisdom +1) Epic Spell Focus (Evocation)
25 Druid (8 HP) Epic Spell Penetration
26 Druid (8 HP)
27 Druid (8 HP) Infinite Elemental Shape Epic Spell Focus (Conjuration)
28 Druid (8 HP) (Wisdom +1)
29 Druid (8 HP) Great Wisdom I
30 Druid (8 HP) Great Wisdom II
31 Druid (8 HP)
32 Druid (8 HP) (Wisdom +1)
33 Druid (8 HP) Great Wisdom III Great Wisdom IV
34 Druid (8 HP)
35 Druid (8 HP)
36 Druid (8 HP) (Wisdom +1) Great Wisdom V
37 Druid (8 HP) Great Wisdom VI
38 Druid (8 HP)
39 Druid (8 HP) AE +42, Conc +42, Parry +42 Great Wisdom VII
40 Bard (6 HP) (Wisdom +1) Conc +1, Disc +43, Parry +1, UMD +43, Tum +40 Weapon Proficiency (simple) Bardic Knowledge Bard Song
Feats not associated with any level: Epic Spell Focus (Abjuration) (tome read)
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Sun Mar 30 21:38:59] [Server] You have the following legendary feats: Legendary Spell Focus (Conjuration) Legendary Spell Focus (Transmutation) Legendary Spell Penetration Legendary Saving Throw (Luck)
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Post by kebargo on May 17, 2008 16:22:27 GMT
What do u think about Fallen Angel version of this built? I would be very greatful for any recommandations. Ok, forget about question above i should have read whole thread before posting it, sorry. Kebargo, (noob)
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