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Post by rtsang on Jan 13, 2008 23:45:19 GMT
I am new to this server (couple days) and was looking for an AA build and this one seems saved me a lot of work. One thought thou, how about replacing G. Fort and Iron Will with Strong Soul and take L. Strong Soul, the difference is -2 saves to both fort and will but you free up one pre-epic feat and one L. feat.
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Post by Balduvard on Jan 14, 2008 7:00:54 GMT
This build was created before the feats you listed (among many other things) and has not been updated accordingly. I assume Yue's build, if posted, will take such things into account.
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Post by rtsang on Jan 15, 2008 16:36:26 GMT
Another question, why not replace 2 G. Dex for EWF and Armor Skin? You will have 1 more ab and 1 more ac.
By doing the above change, and if taking strong soul let you take L. Soul (replace epic will) and take LWF (replace epic fort) which grants another 2 more ab.
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Post by phalthallus on Jan 15, 2008 17:56:48 GMT
Armor Skin's already there (at least in the first post in this thread). EWF would be ok, but AA's have crazy good AB as it is.
You could still drop 2 GrDex feats, one for EWF...not sure what the other would be for. ESF: Listen, maybe.
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Post by rtsang on Jan 16, 2008 6:07:23 GMT
Sorry didn't see Armor Skin there. We can take EWF and Epic Prowess for 2 more ab then. If we take L. Soul and LWF, there will be 3 more ab from LWF (with Epic Prowess). So total 5 more ab but -1 ac and -2 saves to Fort/Will. Maybe worth to do so, the ab will be shifted up by 5.
A side question, will AA continues to increase the Enchanted Arrow while taking the L. Levels?
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Post by bort on Jan 16, 2008 11:07:11 GMT
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Post by mishimayukio on Jan 17, 2008 7:01:18 GMT
Here is the build I followed, with another subrace variant. The saves are slightly borderline, so using the saves artifact is a must. I've been able to tank paragon malebranches with ease, and I imagine that once I get 1x demi and slightly better gear I should be able to tank Hells bosses as well.
Subrace: Elf Half-Kyton
Stats creation (subrace) [60 bufffed] STR 8 ( 8) [20] DEX 17 (21) [62] CON 12 (16) [28] INT 14 (14) [26] WIS 16 (20) [32] CHA 8 ( 8) [20]
Skills: Max Listen every level. Max Discipline, tumble, and parry every Monk level. Dump 30 points into hide at level 40. Max tumble at level 43+ During LLs, put extra points into craft armor and craft weapon after maxing the other skills.
Feats: Blooded Point blank shot WF longbow Rapid Shot improved critical longbow Iron will Great fortitude ESF disc great dex 1, great dex 2 Great dex 3 great dex 4 great dex 5 great dex 6 great dex 7 great dex 8, great dex 9 armor skin
Legendary Feats: LSA tumble self concealment 1 self concealment 2 self concealment 3 self concealment 4 self concealment 5 LSF listen
Subrace: Elf Erinyes
Stats creation (subrace) [60 bufffed] STR 8 ( 8) [20] DEX 17 (23) [64] CON 12 (14) [26] INT 14 (14) [26] WIS 16 (20) [32] CHA 8 ( 6) [18]
Skills: Max Listen every level. Max Discipline, tumble, and parry every Monk level. Dump 30 points into hide at level 40. Max tumble at level 43+ During LLs, put extra points into craft armor and craft weapon after maxing the other skills.
Feats: Blooded toughness great fortitude iron will improved critical longbow Skill focus Listen blind fight ESF disc great dex 1, great dex 2 Great dex 3 great dex 4 great dex 5 great dex 6 great dex 7 great dex 8, great dex 9 armor skin
Legendary Feats: LSA tumble self concealment 1 self concealment 2 self concealment 3 self concealment 4 self concealment 5 LSF listen
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Post by icevvind on Jan 17, 2008 12:18:09 GMT
I think i could post my version as well... Subrace: Elf, Planewalker Stats: Base; Subrace; Lvl 60 (all +12) STR 8 (6) [18] DEX 18 (20) [60] CON 14 (16) [28] INT 8 (10) [22] WIS 16 (16) [28] CHA 8 (8) [20] Skills: Craft Armor 63 Tumble 60 Disciplin 42 Parry 42 Hide 30 9 points left over for whatever you like. Level, Class: 1: Monk 2: Wizard 3-9: Monk 10-19: AA 20: Monk, max Tumble, Discipline and Parry 21-38: AA 39: Monk, max Tumble, Discipline and Parry again, put 30 points into hide for Self Conceal 1 40: AA Feats, in the order i took them, level in (): --Pre-Epic-- Blooded (1) Point Blank Shot (3) Weapon Focus Longbow (6) Thoughness (9) Imp Crit Longbow (12) Blind Fight (15) Great Fort (18) --Epic-- Armor Skin (21) Great Dex 1-7 (24, 27, 28, 30, 32, 33) Iron Will, Great Dex 8 (36) Self Conceal 1 (39) --LL-- LSA Tumble (42) Self Conceal 2-5 (45, 48, 51, 54) LL Fort (57) LL Will (60) If you intend to enter hells at lvl 55, you could switch around the LL save feats with 2 of the Self Conceal feats, though i didn't have that much problems at lvl 58 up to Min. ----- In LLs, put all points into Craft Armor, into Tumble until lvl 57. You will have 9 points left over at 60, put them into whatever you want. Saves at 60, maxed: Fort: 66 Reflex: 73 Will: 64 Unbuffed AB with a +16 bow: 92, so 96 max. AC with UR gear, asuming +1 from Craft Armor (+2 if you get it over 80): 127 HP: 956 Btw, this build has no Rapid Shot, so one would have to read the Rapid Shot Pandect... As artifact i used the Wisdom-Artifact, as it's easier to get for me, and the permanent fear-immunity is nice. Including 2 BUR items (gloves and amulet) my AC is at 130, and my will save is at 65 instead of 64. Discipline will be a bit low, even with +50 from items, but my old Wraith-AA didn't have much problems with that.
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Post by capa on Feb 7, 2008 5:09:54 GMT
Love this build. AA is such a fun class to play, but with stock Bioware data it's underpowered. Here it seems to be arguably one of the most powerful.
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Post by Chaos on Mar 18, 2008 10:43:01 GMT
Would you change anything to try to get LSA tumble for an extra +4 ac? Would help out a lot I believe.
Chaos
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Post by mrbadexample on Mar 18, 2008 10:55:38 GMT
Figured I'd add my twist to this build as I like the solid FoA framework. Stats:start(subrace mod) STR: 18(22) DEX: 14(18) CON: 14 WIS: 10(8) INT: 8(10) CHA: 8(10) Stat boosts: Start boosting STR till you get your base STR to 25, after that boost DEX. Skills till lvl41: Max: Tumble/Dicp/parry on appropiate lvls 30pts in Hide for Self-Conceal Post lvl41 Max: same skills as above + Listen. Use any remaining skill points as you see fit. Progression: 9Mnk/1Wiz/29AA/1Mnk Feats: 1. Blooded 3. Wep. Prof: Martial 6. Wep Foc: Longbow 9. Point Blank Shot 12. Rapid Shot 15. Blind Fight 18. Improved Crit: LongBow 21. Power Attack 24. Great Cleave/Great Dex I 27. Overwhelming Critical: LongBow 28. Devastating Critical: LongBow 30. Great Dex II 32. Great Dex III 33. Great Dex IV 36. Great Dex V & VI 39. Great Dex VII 42. LSA:Tumble 45. Self Conceal I 48. Self Conceal II 51. Self Conceal III 54. Self Conceal IV 57. Self Conceal V 60. Spare feat for Leg Skill focus: Listen or Epic Will
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Post by Balduvard on Mar 18, 2008 20:50:42 GMT
Would you change anything to try to get LSA tumble for an extra +4 ac? Would help out a lot I believe. Chaos You can refer to Yue's post regarding the implementation of legendary feats.
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Post by cathedralmaster on Apr 22, 2008 4:40:55 GMT
I came up with a Wood Elf variant I figured I'd post:
"Wood Elf" - FC: Ranger - INT -2, CON +2, +4 animal empathy, free feat: Point Blank Shot
Race: Elf Subrace: Wood Elf
Abilities: Str 8 (8) Dex 18(18) Con 14(16) Wis 14(14) Int 12(10) Chr 8 (8)
Skills: (176 pts by Level 40, 256 by level 60)
Concentration (30) Discipline (43) Tumble (60) (30 until level 41) Hide (30) Parry (43)
Save until after the others have been covered. Listen (50)
Feats: (25 feats, 7 basic, 6 epic, 6 class, 6 legendary)
1. Monk - Blooded 2. Monk - 3. Monk - Toughness 4. Monk - Dex +1(19) 5. Monk - 6. Monk - Weapon Focus (Longbow) 7. Monk - 8. Monk - Dex +1 (20) 9. Monk - Blind Fight 10. Sorceror - 11. Arcane Archer - 12. Arcane Archer - Iron Will, Dex +1(21) 13. Arcane Archer - 14. Arcane Archer - 15. Arcaen Archer - Improved Critical (Longbow) 16. Arcane Archer - Dex +1(22) 17. Arcane Archer - 18. Arcane Archer - Rapid Shot 19. Arcane Archer - 20. Arcane Archer - Dex +1(23) 21. Arcane Archer - Armor Skin 22. Arcane Archer - 23. Arcane Archer - 24. Arcane Archer - Epic Weapon Focus (Longbow), Great Dexterity I (24), Dex +1(25) 25. Arcane Archer - 26. Arcane Archer - 27. Arcane Archer - Great Dexterity II (26) 28. Arcane Archer - Great Dexterity III (27), Dex +1 (28) 29. Arcane Archer - 30. Arcane Archer - Great Dexterity IV (29) 31. Arcane Archer - 32. Arcane Archer - Great Dexterity V (30), Dex +1(31) 33. Arcane Archer - Great Dexterity VI (32) 34. Arcane Archer - 35. Arcane Archer - 36. Arcane Archer - Great Dexterity VII (33), Dex +1(34) 37. Arcane Archer - 38. Arcane Archer - Great Dexterity VIII (35) 39. Arcane Archer - Epic Prowess 40. Monk - Dex +1(36) ------ 41. Arcane Archer - 42. Arcane Archer - LSA Tumble, Dex +1(37) 43. Arcane Archer - 44. Arcane Archer - Dex +1(38) 45. Arcane Archer - LL Weapon Focus (Longbow) 46. Arcane Archer - Dex +1(39) 47. Arcane Archer - 48. Arcane Archer - Self-Concealment I, Dex +1(40) 49. Arcane Archer - 50. Arcane Archer - Dex +1(41) 51. Arcane Archer - Self-Concealment II 52. Arcane Archer - Dex +1(42) 53. Arcane Archer - 54. Arcane Archer - Self-Concealment III, Dex +1(43) 55. Arcane Archer - 56. Arcane Archer - Dex +1(44) 57. Arcane Archer - Self-Concealment IV 58. Arcane Archer - Dex +1(45) 59. Arcane Archer - 60. Arcane Archer - Self-Concealment V, Dex +1(46)
Fort: 13 + 10 + 5 + 9 (maxed con bonus) + 20 (items) = 57 + 5 = 62 Reflex: 13 + 10 + 5 + 25 (maxed dex bonus) + 20 (items) = 73 + 5 = 78 Will: 11 + 10 + 5 + 8 (maxed wisdom bonus) + 20 (items) = 54 + 5 = 59 + 2 = 61
+16 (BAB) +10 (epic levels) + 9 (LL bonus dependant on control class) +24 (b buffed main stat) +16 (GMW) or whatever you think you can count on + 0 (WM bonuses) +15 (enchant arrow) + 3 (WF/EWF) + 3 (LL WF dependent on Prowess) + 1 (Prowess) + 0 (tensers, divine power, etc - counts towards the +20 of GMW) + 0 (craft weapon provides +1 ab per 40 fully modified ranks) - 0 (dualing if you took the feats) +/- i (size modifier) --- 97-101 ab
10 - base 16 - natural (+20 strongheart if 40 str and less than 21 RDD levels) 14 - armor without dex mod 16 - deflection 20 - dodge+haste 12 - tumble (depends on skill level) 2 - armor skin 8 - wisdom (if you have monk, subject to possible class ac bonus restrictions) 25 - dex modifier 0 - shield modifier (19 for Pentavite, 16 for large shields) 0 - skill modifier (craft armor provides +1 to ac per 40 fully modified ranks) 2 - class ac bonus 0 - size modifier --- 124
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Post by bort on Apr 22, 2008 13:32:32 GMT
You might want to post that in the Open Subrace Build forum (if you have time that is...)
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Post by Rodon_ on Jul 14, 2008 20:16:42 GMT
What does concentration do for that build, cath ? Is there any hell-related (haven't been through the hells yet) check, or is it something simple I'm missing?
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