Mr. Stone Hands (22 Barb/18 Sorc) Nov 18, 2008 7:48:06 GMT
Post by shardelay on Nov 18, 2008 7:48:06 GMT
just a side question... what spells do you use for 7/8/9, and how useful do you find them?
7: Bigby, Spell Mantle, prismatic spray: Bigby - obvious. Spell mantle is mostly a waste as i could scribe it, but it lets me soak up implodes. Prismatic sucks. I'm not real happy with this level but there wasnt much choice. I suppose i could hvae gone with FoD but i figured w/out the necro focus it wouldnt be very good... Not much takes neg damage and i certainly wont insta-kill w/out necro focus.
8: Bigby, GS, sunburst - bigby and gs are obvious. Sunburst was for leveling up, i intend to change at the pedastal for mass blind, but i dont know how much use ill get out of it.
9: Bigby, wierd, MS - bigby and wierd are obvious - MS was useful leveling up and farming pyramid. The last choice here isn't a clear one either but i suspect i'll stick with MS as its nice to have some divine damage available at a decent DC.
So yes, you could find some decent necro use from ED and FoD, but I dont want to give up evo/trans/illusion so that makes me feat tight. I'd give up illusion first, but using gnome that doesnt net me as many feats if i drop it because of the free illusion so dropping that one is more costly.
I haven't spent enough time in hell with him to really know how well the selection works so time will tell. I suspect ill be bigby and FTS most of the time anyway so the others might just be best spent on buffs.
I'd be very wary about relying on rages for spell penetration. You only get 6 of them per rest on a 20/20 build, and they last around 3-4 minutes each. That looks like plenty on paper, but if you die a few times during a nasty spawn you run the risk of being completely ineffective until you manage to get a rest in.
There are items that give more rages, and as Ill says, even if you die once or twice it should still be ok unless the group is really struggling, and then you have bigger problems.
And for Shard Elay:
How did u got CON 74 and LSF trans and ESF Illusion and Evo?
3 of the 7 LL feats u have should have been taken with GCON (since u have 7 epic feats), so u must have gotten ESF and LSF Trans, and ESF Illusion at LL (evo by book). Didnt u get any LL saves feats?
I took no LL save feats on him (I could have fit 1 in). My con is HUGE, so fort isn't a problem at all. My will save is marginal and my reflex is a joke. My decision was that the range on bigby's and FTS was so extreme that I could get away with low saves. There's no reason i need to be standing on webs (although other reflex saves will be rough). And with a dex of 6 there was really no fixing my reflex w/out spending a great number of feats that I needed for foci. Spending 2 or 3 feats on reflex would have cost me a meta-magic or some con and my reflex still would have been underpar and not really helped much. So I'm just gonna hang back and bigby and FTS from range.