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Post by flay on Mar 24, 2008 13:32:28 GMT
Seems I completely forgot about shield profeciency in my lycan version. I've added it now.
Using shields is essential. I'd suggest to drop exotic weapons to get it, and pick up a weapon proficiency upon reincarnation if you get a shield pandect.
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Post by Onyx [SL] on Mar 26, 2008 7:15:52 GMT
at level 34 and really like how the build is coming along so far. Already into self conceal and have epic dodge making me very hard to hit. Plus I'm maxing out hide and parry for the added you can't hit me effect. Able to get my hands on the INT arti with my 16 INT that will bring me up to 18 INT. Took the feat Opportunist that gives me a extra plus 4 to hit plus the added skills to add on. I am going to hold off on the epic skill focus disable trap due to I'm going to try to max out my set trap skills. that means 25 ranks of Set Trap will add up to the same thing right? Am taking Sirloin's advice and maxing out Parry also.
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Post by flay on Mar 26, 2008 8:14:34 GMT
I am going to hold off on the epic skill focus disable trap due to I'm going to try to max out my set trap skills. Make sure you're going to hit 127 disable trap at 60. you don't get any more than +2 disable trap at 5 ranks of set trap.
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Post by Onyx [SL] on Mar 26, 2008 11:43:08 GMT
Shows what a noob I am at building hehe. Going to then max what you suggested and leave the craft armor, craft weapon, and set trap skills as left over bins to dump my skill points into then. Thanks!
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Post by ..[Sirloin].. on Mar 26, 2008 16:50:43 GMT
That's very smart thing to do! Did a pure rogue of my own too. leveled it to 42 in two days. Working very well. The crits are usually the only thing that are hitting me in melee. Very high ac / epic dodge / SC prevent the regular attacks from hitting you and if you max out the parry skill it will reduce the amount of crits also. Gotta say that I love the pure rogue. 8) (Did it with base race Dwarf [+2 con, bullheaded] and subrace Lycan)
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Post by Senaattori on Apr 21, 2008 10:21:35 GMT
- At Rogue 30, the Crippling Strike feat increases critical threat ranges by 1 for LIGHT WEAPONS and morningstars, if the rogue is wearing light or no armor. - At Rogue 35, the Crippling Strike feat has a chance to increase critical multiplier by 1 for LIGHT WEAPONS and morningstars, if the rogue is wearing armor or no armor.
Is rapier considered as light weapon or as medium weapon in this case? Sheet says that rapier is medium weapon but its still finnessable by med chars...
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Post by borges on Apr 21, 2008 14:53:55 GMT
From NWN wiki:
So the question is not "is it light or is it medium," since medium is a fixed size and light is a comparison between the size of the weapon and the size of the wielder. If you are a large sized toon, then a rapier is light. Otherwise, it isn't. Absent some HG-specific hack, which I don't think exists.
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Post by Kazatel on Apr 24, 2008 16:18:08 GMT
Rogues get bonus concealment based on their Hide skill. I would recommend getting that as high as possible.
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Post by flay on Apr 24, 2008 17:34:02 GMT
Hmm, thats weird. Got hide on my rogue, not sure why its not on the list here. I'll add it.
Edit: Corrected skill list and added skill point count.
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Post by AW O'Reilly on Jul 8, 2008 17:45:39 GMT
Interesting build. I am trying to understand how you ended up with 58 dex with gear. If you start with 20, plus 10 pre-epic/epic, plus 2 G.Dex, plus 10 LL = 42 +12 (gear) = 54. Did I miss something?
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Post by flay on Jul 8, 2008 23:08:01 GMT
Don't rogues get free dex in legendary levels?
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Post by flay on Jul 8, 2008 23:13:03 GMT
I've played this build for awhile now in hells and I'm very satisfied with it. The good AC, epic dodge, and conceal from hide make it very durable.
I'll retract saying Undying is weak. At least for this build, its on the same scale as other BURs.
I'd reccomend focussing in the club/sap. It cant be slagged and has good damage types.
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Post by AW O'Reilly on Jul 9, 2008 19:19:50 GMT
Hehe you are right, thanks for straightening me out:
Dexterity bonus: A character with rogue as their control class gains +1 to dexterity every 5 legendary levels.
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Post by flay on Jul 11, 2008 22:18:47 GMT
I've tanked Mephistopheles with this build without problem.
I haven't taken it to Nessus, but slagging won't be an issue. If by some stroke of bad luck the shield is slagged, I can switch to Sparten. Robes and light armor can't be slagged, and a sap can't be slagged either.
This build should be able to tank Asmodeus without too much difficulty as well. I'm not sure if slippery mind works against Asmodeus' will save damage special attack. If it doesn't, the will save might be a bit low unless the cleric throws greater restores around.
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Post by flay on Jul 15, 2008 1:07:54 GMT
A human half-fiend version.
Human Half-Fiend (BUR) Strider, SR: 10+1/lvl, +6 Hide/Move Silently
Ability Scores (before/after half-fiend) Str 15 Dex 16/22 Con 14/18 Wis 8/6 Int 14/18 Cha 8/6
Pre-Epic Feats Bullheaded Strong Soul Weapon Finesse Shield Proficiency Weapon Focus (club/sap) Iron Will Great Fortitude Skill Focus Disable Trap
Epic Feats Armor Skin Epic Weapon Focus (club/sap) Epic Prowess Epic Will Great Strength 1 Great Strength 2 Great Strength 3
Rogue Pre-Epic Feats Defensive Roll Improved Evasion Crippling Strike Opportunist
Rogue Epic Feats Epic Dodge Slippery Mind Skill Mastery ESF Listen ESF Search
Legendary Feats LSA Discipline Hardened Soul Legendary Weapon Focus (club/sap) Legendary Will Legendary Fortitude Great Strength 4 Great Strength 5
Skills (891 skill points) Level 1: 44 skill points Level 2 to 60: 767 skill points Legendary Rogue: 80 skill points
Appraise 20 (cross-class at level 60) Bluff 63 Concentration 31 (cross-class at level 60) Craft Armor 60 Craft Weapon 60 Disable Trap 63 Discipline 63 Hide 63 Listen 63 Open Lock 63 Parry 63 Pick Pocket 63 Search 63 Set Trap 5 Tumble 63 Use Magic Device 40
Saving Throws Fort 66 Ref 71 Will 64
Intelligence Artifact Sneak Attack Pandect
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