Priest of Chaos [Cleric 60]

[Feng]

Built this with some of the newer area's in the Mod in mind.
Wondering how it would do in the Hell's as well.

Would love some constructive feedback on this build.
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"Anarch" (secret Beyond UltraRare)
- FC: Druid
- CON +4 WIS +6, free feat: Alertness, free feat: Creature
Weapon Specialization, free feat: Martial Weapon
Proficiency, free feat: Armor Skin, free feat: Creature
Epic Weapon Specialization, increased base movement rate -
fast

Dwarves (can speak Dwarven)
- All dwarves receive the Bullheaded feat for free, which
allows them to acquire Legendary Skill Affinity Discipline.
- Darkvision
- Con +2, Cha -2
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Str(00/00)08 [20/wGear]
Dex(00/00)08 [20/wGear]
Con(+2/+4)14/18 [30/wGear]

Int(00/00)16 [28/wGear]
Wis(00/+6)18/24 [38|48][50@40/wGear][60@60/wGear]
Cha(-2/00)06 [18/wGear]
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Chaotic Evil

Domains:
Earth [Stoneskin(4)/Energy Buffer(5)]
Evil [Neg Energy Ray(1)/Neg Energy Burst(3)/Enervation(5)]
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Saves [With all Modifiers @60]
Fortitude:62
Reflex:60
Willpower:68

Hit Points:[@40] Naked:480
Geared:720/ @60 920
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Necromancy - Eternal Return
- The next time the caster dies, he will be resurrected,
fully healed, and have Greater Sanctuary cast upon him.

Abjuration - Aegis
- All party members in the area are granted 30/- resistance
and (CL / 6)% immunity versus magical, positive, negative,
and divine damage for CL rounds.

Evocation - Conversion
- The target is dominated permanently and with no save if
it is not immune.

Cleric Secret - Mass Ressurection
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Concentration
Discipline [LSA LL/Save]
Heal
Parry
Spellcraft
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--- Cleric ---
1 (Alertness),(Martial Weapons),(Armor Skin),(Fast),
(CW/ECW Specialization),(Heavy Armor),(Shields),
(Bullheaded),(Spontaneous Cast),(Turn Undead),
(Darkvision),SF Evocation
2 No Feat
3 Silent Spell
4 +1 Wisdom
5 No Feat
6 Empower Spell
7 No Feat
8 +1 Wisdom
9 SF Necromancy
10 No Feat
11 No Feat
12 +1 Wisdom,GSF Necromancy
13 No Feat
14 No Feat
15 SF Abjuration
16 +1 Wisdom
17 No Feat
18 GSF Abjuration
19 No Feat
20 +1 Wisdom
--- Epic ---
21 Great Wisdom 1
22 No Feat
23 Great Wisdom 2
24 +1 Wisdom,Great Wisdom 3
25 No Feat
26 Great Wisdom 4
27 Lightning Reflexes
28 +1 Wisdom
29 GSF Evocation
30 Maximize Spell
31 No Feat
32 +1 Wisdom,ESF Evocation
33 Auto Silent Spell 1
34 No Feat
35 Auto Silent Spell 2
36 +1 Wisdom,ESF Necromancy
37 No Feat
38 ESF Abjuration
39 Auto Silent Spell 3
40 +1 Wisdom
--- Legendary ---
41 Immortal,[Tome Epic Spell Penetration]
42 +1 Wisdom,LSA Discipline
43 No Feat
44 +1 Wisdom
45 LSF Necromancy
46 +1 Wisdom
47 No Feat
48 +1 Wisdom,LSF Abjuration
49 No Feat
50 +1 Wisdom
51 LSF Evocation
52 +1 Wisdom
53 No Feat
54 +1 Wisdom,Legendary Spell Penetration
55 No Feat
56 +1 Wisdom
57 Epic Fortitude
58 +1 Wisdom
59 No Feat
60 +1 Wisdom,Legendary Reflexes
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Edits :

1.Raised Con to base 18 , was 2 points low at 16.
2.Calculated Saves and Hit Points.

[Feng]

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[jonuhey]

I dont think a cleric without miracle (Divination epic spell) would be a good cleric... As far as I know, in most of the cases we want a cleric in party for:
1st: Implode (This one you have)
2nd: Miracle (In case the fight gets tough)
3rd: Party Buffs AKA Girding of faithful (+2 armor, +2 shield) and Instruments of faith (+16 gmw) Those arent "needed", but every party will ask you if you have it before a run starts
4th: Healing (You can do this too)

Is there any reason you choose those epics?? Im using a furchin with my cleric, and I got all 4 "needed" epics, thou I only have one metamagic iirc... Necro foci is good, but not that needed

I know theres a lot of good clerics players around here that would give you much more tips than I can...

Jonuhey

[chirikov]

necro isnt that bad of a choice with evil domain, since you can then enervate and clerics also get energy drain. abjuration isnt so useful but assuming that aegis will be buffed to provide protection vs the new damage types later it could be worth having

[StrykerOfChaos]

Oct 22, 2008 22:11:31 GMT chirikov said:

necro isnt that bad of a choice with evil domain, since you can then enervate and clerics also get energy drain. abjuration isnt so useful but assuming that aegis will be buffed to provide protection vs the new damage types later it could be worth having

It already gives buffage vs. the new damage types. That's one of the reasons an Abj cleric is super useful in Abos... :cough:

[chirikov]

well, there you go then

[bort]

Oct 22, 2008 13:34:25 GMT Feng said:

Went pure with the intent of that helping balance out the difference to the DC's from less than Max Wisdom.

Caster levels don't determine your spell DCs, only casting stat (Wisdom in this case) and spell focus feats determine them.

Going pure does increase your spell penetration though.

You might want to squeeze in Greater Ruin some how, as you have Spellcraft listed as a skill already (you get two a day with 50 spellcraft), and it's very useful for instakilling nasties/lots of fun.

I'm assuming due to the lack of monk splash that you're going heavy armor rather than robes, and therefore i'd recommend ditching Parry as your armor check penalty will kill your Parry score (and you could probably either put the skill points to better use elsewhere or lower your starting INT in favour of another stat (perhaps DEX).

Re. epics - I'm guessing you took Abjuration for Energy Immunity and Aegis? Most druids should have Epic Abj. focus, so you can usually let them handle Energy Immunity for the party, and last time i had Aegis on a cleric the duration was a joke, so...

[Feng]

Did Indeed go with the Abjuration Epic with the purpose of the newer "Exotic" Damages in mind.

Passed on Divination Epic (And Focuses) . Relying on the Cleric Mass Resurrection Secret. Also felt it more beneficial to have 3 Metamagic feats for the extra tiers of spells.

Went with high Intelligence with the purpose of making more Stat Checks.

Took Parry Skill to help offset the lack of Divination Focus's (No Gate Critical Immunity). Some Immunity is better than no Immunity,was my thinking.

Spellcraft is for the bonus to Magic Saves and to qualify for Automatic Silent Spell. I'd add Greater Ruin if I had one more feat slot open. Feats are very tight at the moment though.

Edited for Typo

[simpetar]

1. I may be wrong, but AFAIK, Gate does not give critical immunity, only huge damage resistance. You have probably in mind Aura Against Alignment, but that one gives critical immunity if you have 40+ base strength. Parry will help little, because you will probably wear heavy armors and tower shields due to lack of other defenses and the penalties will hurt parry a lot. You *do* have however an option to get critical immunity, via a certain ring, that is perfectly suited to evil clerics

2. Save bonuses from spellcraft do count towards the +20 limit, nice to have only if you are lacking saves otherwise. Taking Still Spell on cleric is pretty pointless, because divine spells do not suffer spell failure from armors/shields; did you mean Auto Silent spell?

[Feng]

simpetar2 : Yes , I did mean Auto Silent Spell . I'm writing half awake again , my bad

[gandoron]

Miracle is really a very different spell than mass rez. The 2 round turning of ALL mobs is potentially more useful than the mass rez potion, but together it's one of the most valuable epics in the game...add a divine intervention for 2x per rest and you are set.

-G

[phalthallus]

If I were going with a build like this, I think I would drop Empower Spell, LSF: Abjuration, and Maximize Spell, and get ESF: Necro. It's nice for draining, enervation, U2D in Elysium, and a few other spells, as well as a great epic, and worth losing those three feats, in my mind. My Cleric has only Extend, and is very happy with it thus far (haven't been to Nessus yet...). I just haven't seen a need to cast much Empowered or Maximized (though Emp'd Destructs and Enervations would be nice).

I notice you don't have Extend though, which hurts on Greater Restores, and Healing Circles, to a lesser degree. I would consider dropping Silent for Extend, though it will bother you a bit in Nessus and Elysium. But you can overcome that with good tactics; it just might make things a little slower.

Just some different options I guess. Overall I tend to agree that Miracle > Mass Rez, for certain areas especially, where you can't get close enough to a player to use Mass Rez. On my Cleric, I went Necro, Trans, Evo, Enchant, and Divination on mine, and wish I could have fit in Abjuration, if only for Aboleths (and any new areas coming out).

[dodrudon]

You can definitely make do with only Silent or Extend metas. Sometimes I wish I had Empower, but only for Darkfires or Prayer or FoM or those lower level spells I don't seem to have enough slots for (in Abos, where you want to have the lower-level Remove Whatever spells). Empowered Cause Crit Wounds would rock, especially because it can be spontaneously casted, but it's totally unnecessary (not to mention it would fall into the same spell level as Harm).

And you want Miracle, and you want Gate. Definitely, 99% want.