No Bankchests or Wallet

[darc]

My desktop is in for repairs so I bought a laptop, installed NWN with an alternate CD Key, installed CEP and HGE, patched up CEP and HGE with the updater and logged in to do a run.

I was able to log in and choose a character from my vault but could not access my Wallet or Bank Chests.

Any ideas?

playername: AW_Darc

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[FunkySwerve]

You'll need to shuffle the order of your cd keys in your ini, closing nwn and restarting each time you check for your loot/money..

Funky

[darc]

Thanks but I don't quite understand the instructions. I changed the order of the keys and got an authentication error.

My desktop died and is in the shop, it might never come back. Why can't I just install NWN to the laptop and carry on? (which is what I've done and everything seems to work except the bank).

EDIT: this post is in error, the key on the laptop was not the same as the PC

[darc]

I've just tested this from the GF's laptop, on which I'd played several times previously using the same CD key as my PC desktop.

Same result, no wallet or bank chests.

I'd be willing to bet that when my PC died mid run on Thursday night it corrupted my account.

EDIT: although I'd played on the GF's laptop with that key I'd never actually tested wallet or bank chests.

[FunkySwerve]

And I'd be willing to bet that people with no concept of the inner workings of our coding have little chance of correctly diagnosing their own issues. Your account isn't 'corrupt'. Did you try all possible combinations of the keys, and are you positive that they're the same ones?

Funky

[Acaos]

The public CD key you have with your wallet is 'QGMPADCX'. You can determine your public CD key by looking at your full CD key and getting every second character (ignoring hyphens) until you have 8 characters. For example, if your full CD key is ABCDE-FGHIJ-KLMNO-PQRST-UVWXY-Z0123-45678, your public key would be BDFHJLNP.

Acaos

[darc]

Oh man, now I'm starting to question everything. The key used on the GF's laptop has a public key of: QVRW3XWJ

Which makes me question if I'd ever checked the bank before from her leptop because this issue should have been there all along. (nevermind that we were convinced the cdkey came from the PC in the first place).

Basically I need to verify what my PC cd key is (it had better be the one that gives a public key of QGMPADCX)

Am I right in thinking the probable resolution is that I need to add the current laptop CD key to my account?

If so then unless they can repair the PC I won't be able to login with it to use the PCScry. Could I just recover the PC's cdkey.ini and use that on the laptop?

Guess I'll call the shop and see just how badly it's borked. I think they were able to connect the drive to another PC to back up the data.

[Acaos]

If you can recover the PC's nwncdkey.ini, that will let you use your chests and wallet. If you still have your original NWN manual with the CD keys in it, you could also put them on the laptop. Also, you may have registered your game on Bioware's site and if so you would be able to recover the CD keys there.

Acaos

[darc]

OK my PC is back online now and the cdkey.ini is totally different (as would be expected given my currently registered public key), It must be from an old Diamond Edition I lost years ago, I guess I've been playing here longer than I thought.

Anyway I've created a player account for my son and logged him into HG with the laptop key. We'll keep both cdkey.ini files on both machines just rename them depending on who is playing on what machine.

Thanks for explaining how the key links to bank and especially how to generate the public key. How can I check which public key I have registered? The main problem I had here was assuming I only had 1 key (and that the diamond edition key was lost to antiquity).

[FunkySwerve]

That depends on what you mean by registered. If you mean registered with bioware, that only matters because you can retrieve them when lost. You can figure out which are registered with bioware by checking on their site. If, however, you mean associated with your HG account, if you can log on with it, it's 'registered'. You can add up to 7 keys per account by using the pc scrye option.

Funky

[darc]

I used 'registered' when I could have used 'linked'. I just meant the relationship of account to cd key.

How can I see which keys are linked to my account? I'm hoping right now we're at a 1:1 ratio:
AW_Darc/QGMPADCX
JayWaa/QVRW3XWJ

What happens if we add each other's keys to our accounts?

[FunkySwerve]

Again, if you can log into the account using that key, it's been linked. Acaos explained above how to get your public key from your private one.

If you add each other's keys to your accounts, you'll be able to play those accounts with those keys, nothing more and nothing less.

Funky

[darc]

Funky, your answers are too generic and they haven't really been helpful. I asked how to tell which Public Key is 'registered/linked/primarily associated with' an account. The PC Scry seems to only have an option to add a new key, not to display current keys.

I can easily figure out what my public key is (Acaos mentioned how and it's pretty straight forward), what I can't tell is which keys are associated with which accounts. Some visibility into this would be helpful. Is there a command to check?

I can see that you know how the system works but this is the first time I've tried to figure it out and there's very little transparancy to it. I'm pretty much stuck at trial and error.

I have two user accounts and two CD keys, each added to the other. When using the second key on each account I can't access wallet/bank.

I thought this was a problem, an error, not expected.

This is my first time testing this scenario, I don't know what to expect. Is it normal not to have access to chests and wallet with a secondary key?

[Acaos]

That's correct. Bank chests and wallets are explicitly linked to only a single CD key.

Adding the secondary CD key only allows you to log in an account (playername) with another CD key.

Acaos

[FunkySwerve]

Nov 14, 2009 11:16:00 GMT darc said:

Funky, your answers are too generic and they haven't really been helpful. I asked how to tell which Public Key is 'registered/linked/primarily associated with' an account. The PC Scry seems to only have an option to add a new key, not to display current keys.

I can easily figure out what my public key is (Acaos mentioned how and it's pretty straight forward), what I can't tell is which keys are associated with which accounts. Some visibility into this would be helpful. Is there a command to check?

Too generic? Unhelpful? You need to reread them, as I've already answered your question, though it may not have been the answer you wanted to hear. If you want something more specific, it helps to be less ambiguous yourself, though I covered all the meanings of 'registered' I thought plausible in my last response. As I said above, if you are able to log in to that account with it, the key is associated with that account. If not, it isn't. There is no command to check, because the command would be redundant - you'd already have to be logged in to use the command, meaning the key is obviously associated with the account. If instead you're asking whether there's a listing utility to see all the accounts and keys you use, there isn't, because there's no way to distinguish who's using what other than by cd key and account - and even those aren't failproof. We could, I suppose, add a command to scan all account cd key strings and pull up matches, but it'd be a beast of a database read (read: lag spike), and a fair amount of effort, for something that would almost never get used. And even then, you could only search either all keys associated with the account you're logged in as, or all accounts with the key you're logged in as. A recursive search of both would be even laggier still.

As to how we have bank accounts set up, this was the most commonsense approach, because people are more likely to use multiple playernames with the same cd key than they are to use multiple keys with one playername, and accounts must be linked to one or the other in order to keep them separate from those of other players.

Funky