New Quasiclass Idea...

[DragonChyld]

Here is my Idea for a new Quasiclass, THIS IS NOT A NEW QUASICLASS!!!!!!!!!! Just my Idea for one. I tried to take into account when calculating the abilities that anyone who takes this as a Quasiclass will be giving up the Assassin’s Dev Crit, I tried to adjust the abilities accordingly to make it worth that sacrifice, I also tried to put a focus on Unarmed monks, something that has been talked about a lot in the proposed abilities thread. Hopefully this would be fairly easy to script as well, a lot less taxing than making all of the spell changes that the other Quasiclasses required.

Disciple of Night Quasiclass
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Requirements: Must have 16 levels of Monk, 14 levels of Assassin, and Hide/Move Silently of 32 by level 30

Benefits:
- On achieving Disciple of Night Status (at level 30), the character is automatically given the 5 Self Concealment feats for free,
- Gains the Visage Creature Appearance
- Gains a special Poison Attack
- Unarmed attack is now Slashing Damage

- Disciples of Night are monks from all orders who have over time become the “dark hands” of their orders. To be chosen to become a Disciple of Night a monk must allow himself to be poisoned and then, Will his body not to reject the poison as he has been trained to do. He is then raised through a special ceremony and assumes a shadow of his former self, gaining new abilities to replace the sacrifice he has made.

- When fighting unarmed the poison that killed the monk now leaks though his claws giving the Disciple a Poison attack on hit as follows (DoN level is calculated as Monk + Assassin level) the DC is a fort save equal to ¾ the DoN level Rounded down.

DoN Level/Ability Damage/DC

30 / 1 CON / 21
32 / 2 CON / 24
36 / 3 CON / 27
40 / 4 CON / 30

[FunkySwerve]

Thanks for moving this. Interesting idea, but there are a few problems. First, quasiclasses are supposed to involve unusual class combos, to increase build diversity. Monk/assassin is not exactly unusual. The level distribution may be, to an extent, because they sacrifice getting a honed weapon, so that might be ok, if less than ideal. Second, it isn't possible to change fist damage. Third, it isn't possible to add acid damage to fists. We could add a temp itemprop, but it wouldn't stack with the existing itemprop if any, and the workaround I'm going to be using for that with the assasin's blade will not work on fists. I could add a unique onhit prop via script, but giving monks onhits is a bad idea, lagwise.
Funky

[DragonChyld]

Cool, thanks for the imput.

Here are a couple things.. Drop the changing of the damage type, and secondly I was thinking of how spiders have posion on hit... (Among other creatures) however I am not a huge scripter, is this what you were refering to as causing lag?

The having someone take assassin for something other than a honed weapon was what I was shooting for, however if it is not a different enough combo of classes, or if you just don't like it I am cool with that as well. I do have a couple other ideas working around. so do you think it is workable or scrap? And would you like me to keep further quasiclass ideas to myself? or can I post them?

~ DC

[hiryuu]

The poison onhit options are limited, and I'm not sure if any can be made as temp properties. I agree with Funky that the build is too viable on its own to justify a quasiclass. Assassin/Palemaster or Monk/Palemaster, perhaps.

[DragonChyld]

hmm, maybe I will work on a Monk/PM combo....

[s0n0va]

a monk/pm combo can have some very impressive ac. the only downside is a lowish unarmed ab.

[versengeteriks]

Why not have somehting really outlandish like a drunken monk. Part martial arts trained adventurer, part raging drunkard, AKA Barbarian rage. Build a quasiclass on that why dont ya!
Align change is possible and would be part of a quest to get to the alter.
Could give them fire breathing or something (spitting lit alcohol) as a bonus for completing the requirements. free brawling or dodge bonus due to being hard to hit because they weave around drunk. improved damage reduction while raging due to lack of senses. Immu to mind, ability to use any wpn in a basic fasion.

Ohh and free beer!