Post by darc on Jan 19, 2010 17:46:09 GMT
I'm having a hard time finding a use for this race. Even the favoured classes are much more durable with most other sub races. I know there should be trade offs for specializing in a high stat (like STR) but the negatives on this race are really profound given how important skills and saves are on HG.
This is a Secret race that gives a net -1 to stats and a penalizing Special (Slow). Overall stats are below:
+5 STR, -2 DEX, +2 CON, -4 INT, -4 CHA
The CHA penalty makes it a poor choice for several tank splashes (RDD, Paladin, BG) that would help with durability.
The INT penalty make it undesirable for any build that needs skills to offset deficiencies (like needing AC or AB or crit immune).
SUGGESTIONS (choose one or mix and match if you think it's really that under powered):
1) give it Power Attack to free up a feat for saves on builds that pursue Overwhelming/Dev crit
2) give it Cleave to entice BG splash or free up a feat for saves
3) +5 (or 10) bonus to Intimidate/taunt/discipline, frees up skill points
4) Legendary Skill focus Intimidate
5) STR bonus increase to +5, frees up stat points to raise skills or saves
Oddly reducing the stat penalties by 1 or 2 (even 1 point each) doesn't affect the build choices as you still wouldn't sink points into the worst stats (INT and CHA). Dropping the dex penalty would open up some choices but that doesn't fit with Ogres.
EDIT: possible battle cleric material but starved for skills on an already skill challenged build.
This is a Secret race that gives a net -1 to stats and a penalizing Special (Slow). Overall stats are below:
+5 STR, -2 DEX, +2 CON, -4 INT, -4 CHA
The CHA penalty makes it a poor choice for several tank splashes (RDD, Paladin, BG) that would help with durability.
The INT penalty make it undesirable for any build that needs skills to offset deficiencies (like needing AC or AB or crit immune).
SUGGESTIONS (choose one or mix and match if you think it's really that under powered):
1) give it Power Attack to free up a feat for saves on builds that pursue Overwhelming/Dev crit
2) give it Cleave to entice BG splash or free up a feat for saves
3) +5 (or 10) bonus to Intimidate/taunt/discipline, frees up skill points
4) Legendary Skill focus Intimidate
5) STR bonus increase to +5, frees up stat points to raise skills or saves
Oddly reducing the stat penalties by 1 or 2 (even 1 point each) doesn't affect the build choices as you still wouldn't sink points into the worst stats (INT and CHA). Dropping the dex penalty would open up some choices but that doesn't fit with Ogres.
EDIT: possible battle cleric material but starved for skills on an already skill challenged build.