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Post by TJ on Apr 20, 2010 2:03:36 GMT
Okay, so ive got a few questions for you guys - so tonight windows crapped out on me, and i didnt even bother trying to fix it now that i have gotten NWN running in OS X, so i installed Ubuntu 9.10. First question - what is a good frame rate running glxgears at full screen for about a minute? I was getting 242.4FPS, and im wondering how NWN will fare. Second question - Can I just use my old Windows NWN install with a linux executable here, and if so, how would i go about doing that? Thats all for now... The Linux noob in me thanks you guys in advance  TJ |
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Post by rump on Apr 20, 2010 2:32:32 GMT
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Post by TJ on Apr 20, 2010 2:59:16 GMT
ah thank you very much for that, rump. installing all that stuff now.
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Post by TJ on Apr 20, 2010 3:13:31 GMT
well, all that is done and i just managed to log in, but i have random black rectangles popping up on my screen. any ideas?
TJ
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Post by Yomi on Apr 20, 2010 5:20:52 GMT
No idea at all about how it predicts NWN, but glxgears fullscreen for me on a 9600GT ($70-$90 these days) is a bit over 1000 fps across both 1680x1050 monitors, and 2100 running full screen on one. That's with the 195.30 driver on Fedora 11 x64.
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Post by arek on Apr 20, 2010 5:24:39 GMT
First question, have you installed the ATI Catalyst drivers yet?
--Arek
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Post by TJ on Apr 20, 2010 13:57:57 GMT
I have tried to install the ATI Catalyst Drivers, but when i run aticonfig in the terminal it doesnt appear to recognize my hardware. I think i need to modify my xorg.conf, but i have NO idea how to do so.
tim@tim-laptop:~$ aticonfig
aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
TJ
EDIT: reinstalling fglrx right now, but im also having issues with glxgears....
tim@tim-laptop:~$ glxgears
X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
Major opcode of failed request: 135 (GLX)
Minor opcode of failed request: 19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)
Serial number of failed request: 16
Current serial number in output stream: 16
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Post by TJ on Apr 20, 2010 17:21:49 GMT
okay, so its all back to normal now, but i cannot install ANY of the proprietary drivers due to --iscurrentdistro.
Misc info:
tim@tim-laptop:~$ lspci | grep VGA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M56P [Radeon Mobility X1600]
root@tim-laptop:~/Downloads# sh ./ati-driver-installer-8-12-x86.x86_64.run
Created directory fglrx-install.ff59s2
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing ATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.561........[removedsome.'s]...........................
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ATI Technologies Linux Driver Installer/Packager
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Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
default:v2:i686:lib::none:2.6.31-14-generic; make sure that the version is being
correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.ff59s2
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Post by arek on Apr 20, 2010 18:08:03 GMT
Looks like you're trying to install Catalyst from the ATI/AMD website, which shouldn't be needed. Instead, read and follow the instructions here and see if they work for you. :-) --Arek P.S. Catalyst and fglrx are 2 names for the same driver. Catalyst is what ATI calls it now. fglrx is what they used to call it, and is what the driver is named in every linux distribution I've used. |
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Post by TJ on Apr 20, 2010 18:16:19 GMT
That PDF doesnt list my card (Mobility Radeon X1600) as compatible. Last time I installed the fglrx drivers from Synaptic, glxgears stopped working (see one of the errors above) and i lost my GUI iirc. Had to use the command prompt to remove my xorg.... also, i dont seem to have an xorg right now. is that an issue?
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Post by arek on Apr 20, 2010 18:40:42 GMT
Ok, I've got bad news. Your video chipset (X1600) is too old to be supported by the current ATI Linux drivers, and ATI will not update the legacy drivers to work on any distribution created after February 2009 (tho there are patches to make said drivers work with some newer kernels, but not with newer X Servers, or with the very latest kernels). Basically, ATI is saying "your laptop is too old for us to support it any longer, go buy a new one". Now for some good news. There are some 3D-Accelerated drivers that may work with your chipset, called RadeonHD. Look here for instructions on how to install them. Hopefully, they get your 3D working. If not, then you're going to have to stick with playing on OSX, or reinstall windoze (or you could install Ubuntu 8.10, but that version may wind up being unsupported soon). --Arek |
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Post by TJ on Apr 20, 2010 19:48:48 GMT
Did that, but I'm still getting insanely low FPS in-game (0.5). Am i just screwed?
If I'm screwed, what is the best free VM out there in your opinion that can run Windows at a resolution towards 1600?
TJ
EDIT: i'd say hold off on any more advice at this time... i might be swapping laptops with another family member for better proc, 2x the HDD, and a GeForce 8600M GT.
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Post by arek on Apr 20, 2010 23:18:57 GMT
If you can get that laptop, you're golden. In the future, I'd say avoid ATI if you plan to use linux - their linux support is sucky at best. nVidia isn't much better for older cards, but at least they don't declare cards at EOL after just 2-3 years.
As for a VM, vmware player should do the trick, tho you'll need to have a way to make the VMs themselves (there's plenty out there). There's also VirtualBox, but I don't know if its 3D support is far enough along yet to handle NWN.
--Arek
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Post by TJ on Apr 20, 2010 23:28:14 GMT
Yeah, i run VirtualBox in OS X, and it can only run 800x600gfx with no way in increase the size. And right now I have both laptops backed up with Time Machine, just need to go-ahead to wipe and reinstall. Thanks for your help.
TJ
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