Open Build - Green Dragon Knight (RDD50/Bd4/Pa6)

[blksabbath74]

I finally have one that is viable, I think.

This is essentially a reworking of Pete’s Dragon for an Open Subrace. I used the same trick that Tomaan used on his Icy Hot Draggy build, so that the Green Dragon Disciple acid immunity cancels out the Earth Genasi’s acid vulnerability and you end up with 25% bludgeoning immunity as a bonus.

Still, I actually had the idea myself, did a better job working it out, and then researched to see if someone had done something similar, so I feel a slight sense of accolplishment.

Thanks for taking the time and effort to help out a noob, and as always, please comment.

Green Dragon Knight

PT – Earth Genasi (Str +2, Con +2, Wis -2, Cha -2)
(25% immune bludgeoning, 25% vulnerable acid)
Strength 16 (18)
Dexterity 14
Constitution 14 (16)
Wisdom 8 (6)
Intelligence 12
Charisma 14 (12)

Touched by the forces of Earth since birth, the Green Dragon Knight is a champion of nature, working closely with rangers, druids and shifters to preserve the balance of nature.

1) Bard 1 (Blooded, Luck of Heroes)
***Tumble 4 & UMD 4***
***Alignment Shift to Lawful Good*** (Will need assistance)
2) Paladin 1
3) Paladin 2 (Power Attack)
4) Paladin 3 (Str +1)
5) Paladin 4
6) Paladin 5 (Cleave)
7) Paladin 6
***Alignment Shift to non-Lawful*** (May still need assistance)
8) Bard 2 (Str +1)
***Tumble 11 & UMD 11***
9) RDD 1 (Great Cleave)
10) RDD 2
11) RDD 3
***Choose Green Dragon Disciple Path*** (May need assistance)
12) GDD 4 (Str +1, Weapon Focus)
13) GDD 5
14) GDD 6
15) GDD 7 (Improved Criticals)
16) GDD 8 (Str +1)
17) GDD 9
18) GDD 10 (Blight Fight)
19) Bard 3
20) Bard 4 (Str +1)
***Tumble 23 & UMD 23***
21) GDD 11 (Epic Toughness I)
22) GDD 12
23) GDD 13
24) GDD 14 (Str +1, Epic Toughness II, Epic Toughness III)
25) GDD 15
26) GDD 16
27) GDD 17 (Epic Toughness IV)
28) GDD 18 (Str +1, Epic Toughness V)
29) GDD 19
30) GDD 20 (Epic Toughness VI)
31) GDD 21
32) GDD 22 (Str +1, Epic Toughness VII)
33) GDD 23 (Epic Toughness VIII)
34) GDD 24
35) GDD 25
36) GDD 26 (Str +1, Epic Toughness IX, Epic Toughness X)
37) GDD 27
38) GDD 28
39) GDD 29 (Overwhelming Critical)
40) GDD 30 (Str +1, Devastating Critical)

Legendary Levels

41) GDD 31
42) GDD 32 (Str +1, Legendary Tumble)
43) GDD 33
44) GDD 34 (Str +1)
45) GDD 35 (Legendary Luck)
46) GDD 36 (Str +1)
47) GDD 37
48) GDD 38 (Str +1, Epic Weapon Focus)
49) GDD 39
50) GDD 40 (Str +1)
51) GDD 41 (Legendary Weapon Focus)
52) GDD 42 (Str +1)
53) GDD 43
54) GDD 44 (Str +1, Epic Prowess)
55) GDD 45
56) GDD 46 (Str +1)
57) GDD 47 (Great Strength)
58) GDD 48 (Str +1)
59) GDD 49
60) GDD 50 (Str +1, Great Strength)

[jonuhey]

Blooded > Legendary Affinity (tumble) is generaly a poor choice for Dragon Disciples, as their max AC gained with tumble is capped (I believe its maxed at 35 tumble or maybe less). So even without any splash you could get 31 tumble, you would only get +1 AC for 2 feats. It would be much better if you take Search skills + Epic Skill focus (search) to be a searcher and add a lot more for your party.
The two last Grt Strength seems a bit wasted imo, you would be better with Greater weapon Focus (changing feats somehow and putting it pre-epic) then take armor skin in the place of Legendary Affinity Tumble, then take Epic skill focus (search) then take something else for the last feat probably Epic Skill focus (listen).
I would also consider dropping either con or cha by 2 and raising int to 14 for another skill. In the end you want to have at least discipline, parry, listen and tumble (31 cross class but costing 62 points) 20-30 points in concentration + search (if you want to) and putting the rest in craft armor or craft weapon.

Also, I would consider using sorcerer instead of Bard (only 2 levels of sorc thou, 1 at first and 1 more when you can put the 8 points into lore), that way you wont need points in UMD to use scrolls and will use them without any check (that is much better in the end game), it would also make you able to level everything without even needing to change alignments, that is already bad to do when you already know what you are looking for, imagine without knowing it

Btw, start playing the builds!!! Designing them before playing is fun, but its much better to play them before seeing its drawbacks, cause you'll be learning more than reading comments here

[tyranlthixis]

Moved your build. Please refer to the posting standards thread at the top of the top of the open subrace message board and look at the other builds in that particular forum to get an idea of what is expected for newly posted builds. Additionally builds should be well flushed out. Feel free to use the constructive criticism of players to improve this build and conform to the content standards mentioned above and it will be moved back. Having said that this is a well used section of the forums and is a perfectly good place to house a build like this if you choose not to do the above. Thanks.

Tyranlthixis

[blksabbath74]

Thanks, that is great feedback. Much appreciated. I will start making the changes.

Would it be worth it buying Alertness -> Legendary Battle Awareness??

As far as playing, at the rate I play it will probably take me a year to get to 60, so I want to make sure I have a good plan. Also, I enjoy it as an exercise in reason.

[MightyKhan]

battle awareness gets you nothing, because yer already immune to sneaks as an RDD

dont forget 8 ranks in lore btw...

30 tumble is all you need. dumping @ 20, then raising crossclass to 30 costs you only 37 points.

the starting stats are fine as is, but you probably have more use for 14 base INT than 14 base charisma. have you thought about your skills yet?

[Yojimbo]

Besides +1 to Reflex and Will what does 4 bard 6 pld get you that 2 bard 8 pld won't? I also agree to shoot for 14 starting INT drop some CON or CHA for it. I'd lean toward CON your HP will be huge and your final CON will be high too. Drop blooded with Tumble dump at 20 you will already be most the way to your max the rest can be done cross class in legendary levels I don't see a need to take it to 31 just max it to 30 at lvl 57.