Post by blksabbath74 on May 17, 2010 15:57:19 GMT
Tainted Champion
This build is based on Mighty Khan’s Sylvan Champion, although I changed the feats up a bit. I chose Yuan-Ti so that I could get +2 Charisma and still get the extra feat for being human. Also, it cuts a little deeper on the Wisdom, and gives magic resistance of 65% at level 60. I picked up Extra Turning to fuel the Divine Might and Divine Shield.
Some Areas of Concern;
With a Wisdom 5 (-3) and without the ability to take it as a skill, will it be worth it to put 3 feats and a lot of skill points into listen? Would this be better spent elsewhere?
How is Listen useful to a character with True Seeing?
With a Dexterity of 10, will Legendary Tumble pay off?
Alternately, would I be better off taking SF, ESF and LSF in Tumble?
Is there a reason to take Craft Armor past level 40?
I left the skills above 40 blank as I am not 100% sure how they work.
I started this character this weekend, but have already screwed it up and will probably just start over. I took Cleave and Great Cleave early, not realizing that Divine Might and Shield had to be bought on Paladin levels.
As always, thanks in advance for taking the time to look at it and give me advice on it.
Yuan-Ti (+2 Cha, +1 Dex, +1 Int, -1 Str, -3 Wis, MR 5+ 1 per level)
* Please not that the default Yuan-Ti model is female.
Strength 15 (14) [42]
Dexterity 9 (10)
Constitution 14
Wisdom 8 (5)
Intelligence 13 (14)
Charisma 16 (18) [26]
1) Rogue 1 (Blooded, Power Attack)
Craft Armor-4, Listen-4, Tumble-4, UMD-4
2) Paladin 1
Concentration-5, Craft Armor-5, Discipline-5
3) Paladin 2 (Divine Shield)
Concentration-6, Craft Armor-6, Discipline-6
4) Paladin 3 (Cha 19)
Concentration-7, Craft Armor-7, Discipline-7
5) Paladin 4
Concentration-8, Craft Armor-8, Discipline-8
6) Paladin 5 (Divine Might)
Concentration 9, Craft Armor 9, Discipline-9
7) Paladin 6
Concentration-10, Craft Armor-10, Discipline-10
8) Paladin 7 (Cha 20)
Concentration-11, Craft Armor-11, Discipline-11
9) Rogue 2 (Weapon Focus)
Listen-12, Tumble-12, UMD-12
10) COT 1
Concentration-13, Craft Armor-13, Discipline-13
11) COT 2 (Cleave)
Concentration-14, Craft Armor-14, Discipline-14
12) COT 3 (Cha 21, Great Cleave)
Concentration-15, Craft Armor-15, Discipline-15
13) COT 4 (Improved Criticals)
Concentration-16, Craft Armor-16, Discipline-16
14) COT 5
Concentration-17, Craft Armor-17, Discipline-17
15) COT 6 (Extra Smiting, Extra Turning)
Concentration-18, Craft Armor-18, Discipline-18
16) COT 7 (Cha 22)
Concentration-19, Craft Armor-19, Discipline-19
17) COT 8 (Blind Fight)
Concentration-20, Craft Armor-20, Discipline-20
18) COT 9 (Skill Focus: Listen)
Concentration-21, Craft Armor-21, Discipline-21
19) COT 10 (Toughness)
Concentration-22, Craft Armor-22, Discipline-22
20) Rogue 3 (Cha 23)
Listen-23, Tumble-23, UMD-23
21) COT 11 (Great Charisma)
Concentration-23, Craft Armor-24, Discipline-24
22) COT 12
Concentration-25, Craft Armor-25, Discipline-25 (Others as able)
23) COT 13
Concentration-26, Craft Armor-26, Discipline-26 (Others as able)
24) COT 14 (Cha 25, Great Smiting I, Great Smiting II)
Concentration-27, Craft Armor-27, Discipline-27 (Others as able)
25) COT 15
Concentration-28, Craft Armor-28, Discipline-28 (Others as able)
26) COT 16
Concentration-29, Craft Armor-29, Discipline-29 (Others as able)
27) COT 17 (Great Smiting III)
Concentration-30, Craft Armor-30, Discipline-30 (Others as able)
28) COT 18 (Str 16)
Concentration-31, Craft Armor-31, Discipline-31 (Others as able)
29) COT 19
Concentration-32, Craft Armor-32, Discipline-32 (Others as able)
30) COT 20 (Great Smiting IV)
Concentration-33, Craft Armor-33, Discipline-33 (Others as able)
31) COT 21
Concentration-34, Craft Armor-34, Discipline-34 (Others as able)
32) COT 22 (Str 17, Great Smiting V)
Concentration-35, Craft Armor-35, Discipline-35 (Others as able)
33) COT 23 (Great Smiting VI)
Concentration-36, Craft Armor-36, Discipline-36 (Others as able)
34) COT 24
Concentration-37, Craft Armor-37, Discipline-37 (Others as able)
35) COT 25
Concentration-38, Craft Armor-38, Discipline-38 (Others as able)
36) COT 26 (Str 18, Great Smiting VII, Great Smiting VIII)
Concentration-39, Craft Armor-39, Discipline-39 (Others as able)
37) COT 27
Concentration-40, Craft Armor-40, Discipline-40 (Others as able)
38) COT 28
Concentration-41, Craft Armor-41, Discipline-41 (Others as able)
39) COT 29 (Great Smiting IX)
Concentration-42, Craft Armor-42, Discipline-42 (Others as able)
40) COT 30 (Str 19, Great Smiting X)
Concentration-43, Craft Armor-43, Discipline-43 (Others as able)
41) COT 31
42) COT 32 (Str 30, Legendary Tumble)
43) COT 33
44) COT 34 (Str 31)
45) COT 35 (Epic Listen)
46) COT 36 (Str 33)
47) COT 37
48) COT 38 (Str 34, Legendary Listen)
49) COT 39
50) COT 40 (Str 36)
51) COT 41 (Epic Weapon Focus)
52) COT 42 (Str 37)
53) COT 43
54) COT 44 (Str 38, Legendary Weapon Focus)
55) COT 45
56) COT 46 (Str 40)
57) COT 47 (Overwhelming Critical)
58) COT 48 (Str 41)
59) COT 49
60) COT 50 (Str 42, Cha 26) Devastating Critical)
This build is based on Mighty Khan’s Sylvan Champion, although I changed the feats up a bit. I chose Yuan-Ti so that I could get +2 Charisma and still get the extra feat for being human. Also, it cuts a little deeper on the Wisdom, and gives magic resistance of 65% at level 60. I picked up Extra Turning to fuel the Divine Might and Divine Shield.
Some Areas of Concern;
With a Wisdom 5 (-3) and without the ability to take it as a skill, will it be worth it to put 3 feats and a lot of skill points into listen? Would this be better spent elsewhere?
How is Listen useful to a character with True Seeing?
With a Dexterity of 10, will Legendary Tumble pay off?
Alternately, would I be better off taking SF, ESF and LSF in Tumble?
Is there a reason to take Craft Armor past level 40?
I left the skills above 40 blank as I am not 100% sure how they work.
I started this character this weekend, but have already screwed it up and will probably just start over. I took Cleave and Great Cleave early, not realizing that Divine Might and Shield had to be bought on Paladin levels.
As always, thanks in advance for taking the time to look at it and give me advice on it.
Yuan-Ti (+2 Cha, +1 Dex, +1 Int, -1 Str, -3 Wis, MR 5+ 1 per level)
* Please not that the default Yuan-Ti model is female.
Strength 15 (14) [42]
Dexterity 9 (10)
Constitution 14
Wisdom 8 (5)
Intelligence 13 (14)
Charisma 16 (18) [26]
1) Rogue 1 (Blooded, Power Attack)
Craft Armor-4, Listen-4, Tumble-4, UMD-4
2) Paladin 1
Concentration-5, Craft Armor-5, Discipline-5
3) Paladin 2 (Divine Shield)
Concentration-6, Craft Armor-6, Discipline-6
4) Paladin 3 (Cha 19)
Concentration-7, Craft Armor-7, Discipline-7
5) Paladin 4
Concentration-8, Craft Armor-8, Discipline-8
6) Paladin 5 (Divine Might)
Concentration 9, Craft Armor 9, Discipline-9
7) Paladin 6
Concentration-10, Craft Armor-10, Discipline-10
8) Paladin 7 (Cha 20)
Concentration-11, Craft Armor-11, Discipline-11
9) Rogue 2 (Weapon Focus)
Listen-12, Tumble-12, UMD-12
10) COT 1
Concentration-13, Craft Armor-13, Discipline-13
11) COT 2 (Cleave)
Concentration-14, Craft Armor-14, Discipline-14
12) COT 3 (Cha 21, Great Cleave)
Concentration-15, Craft Armor-15, Discipline-15
13) COT 4 (Improved Criticals)
Concentration-16, Craft Armor-16, Discipline-16
14) COT 5
Concentration-17, Craft Armor-17, Discipline-17
15) COT 6 (Extra Smiting, Extra Turning)
Concentration-18, Craft Armor-18, Discipline-18
16) COT 7 (Cha 22)
Concentration-19, Craft Armor-19, Discipline-19
17) COT 8 (Blind Fight)
Concentration-20, Craft Armor-20, Discipline-20
18) COT 9 (Skill Focus: Listen)
Concentration-21, Craft Armor-21, Discipline-21
19) COT 10 (Toughness)
Concentration-22, Craft Armor-22, Discipline-22
20) Rogue 3 (Cha 23)
Listen-23, Tumble-23, UMD-23
21) COT 11 (Great Charisma)
Concentration-23, Craft Armor-24, Discipline-24
22) COT 12
Concentration-25, Craft Armor-25, Discipline-25 (Others as able)
23) COT 13
Concentration-26, Craft Armor-26, Discipline-26 (Others as able)
24) COT 14 (Cha 25, Great Smiting I, Great Smiting II)
Concentration-27, Craft Armor-27, Discipline-27 (Others as able)
25) COT 15
Concentration-28, Craft Armor-28, Discipline-28 (Others as able)
26) COT 16
Concentration-29, Craft Armor-29, Discipline-29 (Others as able)
27) COT 17 (Great Smiting III)
Concentration-30, Craft Armor-30, Discipline-30 (Others as able)
28) COT 18 (Str 16)
Concentration-31, Craft Armor-31, Discipline-31 (Others as able)
29) COT 19
Concentration-32, Craft Armor-32, Discipline-32 (Others as able)
30) COT 20 (Great Smiting IV)
Concentration-33, Craft Armor-33, Discipline-33 (Others as able)
31) COT 21
Concentration-34, Craft Armor-34, Discipline-34 (Others as able)
32) COT 22 (Str 17, Great Smiting V)
Concentration-35, Craft Armor-35, Discipline-35 (Others as able)
33) COT 23 (Great Smiting VI)
Concentration-36, Craft Armor-36, Discipline-36 (Others as able)
34) COT 24
Concentration-37, Craft Armor-37, Discipline-37 (Others as able)
35) COT 25
Concentration-38, Craft Armor-38, Discipline-38 (Others as able)
36) COT 26 (Str 18, Great Smiting VII, Great Smiting VIII)
Concentration-39, Craft Armor-39, Discipline-39 (Others as able)
37) COT 27
Concentration-40, Craft Armor-40, Discipline-40 (Others as able)
38) COT 28
Concentration-41, Craft Armor-41, Discipline-41 (Others as able)
39) COT 29 (Great Smiting IX)
Concentration-42, Craft Armor-42, Discipline-42 (Others as able)
40) COT 30 (Str 19, Great Smiting X)
Concentration-43, Craft Armor-43, Discipline-43 (Others as able)
41) COT 31
42) COT 32 (Str 30, Legendary Tumble)
43) COT 33
44) COT 34 (Str 31)
45) COT 35 (Epic Listen)
46) COT 36 (Str 33)
47) COT 37
48) COT 38 (Str 34, Legendary Listen)
49) COT 39
50) COT 40 (Str 36)
51) COT 41 (Epic Weapon Focus)
52) COT 42 (Str 37)
53) COT 43
54) COT 44 (Str 38, Legendary Weapon Focus)
55) COT 45
56) COT 46 (Str 40)
57) COT 47 (Overwhelming Critical)
58) COT 48 (Str 41)
59) COT 49
60) COT 50 (Str 42, Cha 26) Devastating Critical)