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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jun 27, 2010 13:28:51 GMT
This toon started as a Str Based Bane Knight which I wasn't happy with so she became a Str Based Blackguard which again I wasn't happy with so here she is as a Dex Based Blackguard which I am now very happy with  Race : Half Elf SubRace : Pharlan - STR +4, WIS +4, CHA +4, Great STR 1, Great STR 2, Divine Might, Able to walk on Quicksand, Base SR 15 +1/Lvl Stats: (Creation/Subrace/60 Naked/Fully Geared/Demi) Str: 10/14/18/32/32 Dex: 28/28/48/62/64 Con: 10/10/10/24/26 Int: 14/14/14/28/30 Wis: 12/16/16/30/32 Cha: 10/14/18/32/34 Used a Dex Artifact for another +2 Dex on this. | Elriel De'Nath |
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| 1 | Fighter |
- Armor Proficiency (heavy)
- Armor Proficiency (light)
- Armor Proficiency (medium)
- Assist Other
- Blind-Fight
- Blooded
- Command Targeter
- Divine Might
- Great Strength I
- Great Strength II
- Hardiness vs. Enchantments
- Immunity To Sleep
- Low-light Vision
- Mount Actions
- Partial Skill Affinity (Listen)
- Partial Skill Affinity (Search)
- Partial Skill Affinity (Spot)
- Shield Proficiency
- Weapon Proficiency (martial)
- Weapon Proficiency (simple)
| / | / | | 2 | Fighter |
- Weapon Proficiency (exotic)
| / | / | | 3 | Fighter |
- Weapon Focus (katana)
| / | / | | 4 | Fighter |
- Weapon Specialization (katana)
| / | Dexterity | | 5 | Fighter |
/ | / | / | | 6 | Fighter |
- Two-Weapon Fighting
- Weapon Finesse
| / | / | | 7 | Fighter |
/ | / | / | | 8 | Fighter |
- Ambidexterity
| / | Dexterity | | 9 | Fighter |
- Greater Weapon Focus (katana)
| / | / | | 10 | Monk |
- Cleave
- Evasion
- Flurry of Blows
- Improved Unarmed Strike
- Monk AC Bonus
- Stunning Fist
- Weapon Proficiency (monk)
| - Hide +13
| / | | 11 | Blackguard |
- Use Poison
| / | / | | 12 | Blackguard |
- Bull's Strength
- Dark Blessing
- Improved Critical (katana)
- Smite Good
| / | Dexterity | | 13 | Blackguard |
- Create Undead
- Turn Undead
| / | / | | 14 | Blackguard |
- Sneak Attack, Blackguard (+1d6)
| / | / | | 15 | Blackguard |
- Improved Two-Weapon Fighting
- Summon Fiend
| / | / | | 16 | Blackguard |
- Inflict Serious Wounds
| / | Dexterity | | 17 | Blackguard |
- Call of the Grave
- Sneak Attack, Blackguard (+2d6)
| / | / | | 18 | Blackguard |
- Inflict Critical Wounds
- Power Critical (katana)
| / | / | | 19 | Blackguard |
/ | / | / | | 20 | Blackguard |
- Sneak Attack, Blackguard (+3d6)
| / | Dexterity | | 21 | Blackguard |
- Epic Blackguard
- Epic Character
- Great Dexterity I
| / | / | | 22 | Blackguard |
/ | / | / | | 23 | Blackguard |
- Sneak Attack, Blackguard (+4d6)
- Superior Critical (katana)
| / | / | | 24 | Blackguard |
- Great Dexterity II
| / | Dexterity | | 25 | Blackguard |
/ | / | / | | 26 | Blackguard |
- Epic Weapon Focus (katana)
- Sneak Attack, Blackguard (+5d6)
| / | / | | 27 | Blackguard |
- Great Dexterity III
| / | / | | 28 | Blackguard |
/ | / | Dexterity | | 29 | Blackguard |
- Epic Prowess
- Sneak Attack, Blackguard (+6d6)
| / | / | | 30 | Blackguard |
- Great Dexterity IV
| / | / | | 31 | Blackguard |
/ | / | / | | 32 | Blackguard |
- Armor Skin
- Sneak Attack, Blackguard (+7d6)
| / | Dexterity | | 33 | Blackguard |
- Great Dexterity V
| / | / | | 34 | Blackguard |
/ | / | / | | 35 | Blackguard |
- Improved Sneak Attack I
- Sneak Attack, Blackguard (+8d6)
| / | / | | 36 | Blackguard |
- Great Dexterity VI
| / | Dexterity | | 37 | Blackguard |
/ | / | / | | 38 | Blackguard |
- Improved Sneak Attack II
- Sneak Attack, Blackguard (+9d6)
| / | / | | 39 | Blackguard |
- Great Dexterity VII
| / | / | | 40 | Blackguard |
/ | / | Dexterity | | Legendary | Base class | - Epic Skill Focus (Listen)
- Epic Spell Focus (Enchantment)
- Great Dexterity IX
- Great Dexterity VIII
- Great Dexterity X
- Legendary Blackguard
- Legendary Character
- Legendary Skill Affinity (Listen)
- Legendary Skill Affinity (Tumble)
- Legendary Weapon Focus (katana)
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Heh I noticed since this was a reinc all the skill didn't show up on my table properly. Well I maxed out the following skills: Discipline Hide Listen Parry Tumble Left Over Skill Points into Concentration Cata |
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Post by starlandra on Jul 13, 2010 15:42:18 GMT
no final ab ac or saves? (not that saves will really matter)
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jul 13, 2010 16:45:32 GMT
Oops, forgots I dids, will check em later n add em for ya
Cata
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Post by tomaan on Jul 14, 2010 14:34:38 GMT
My dex-based BG is collecting cyber-dust - I was getting caught flat-footed a lot which meant AC was next to nothing.
Have you had this problem?
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jul 14, 2010 14:46:37 GMT
Haven't logged this toon in recently, been busy tagging some others up but iirc it's ab was around 98 with +20 buff, AC aroun d 130 mark and saves all over 60.
As for getting caught flat footed it has never really been an issue for me, I'm a big fan of Dexers and play them quite a bit, this toon is now Demi x 1 and sopmething managed to imobilise me I had no problem with being flat footed at all.
But then you will find that an issue for any dex tank you play.
Cata
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Post by Yojimbo on Jul 14, 2010 17:46:52 GMT
My dex-based BG is collecting cyber-dust - I was getting caught flat-footed a lot which meant AC was next to nothing. Have you had this problem? Thats an issue for any Dex tank you play in my book and the cost you pay for the higher AC you can achieve. Also with a monk level so long as he is in robes and w/o a shield he will get WIS AC which does not go away when flat footed though I doubt it would be enough to make up for the lost AC. |
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Post by jonuhey on Jul 14, 2010 19:00:06 GMT
My dex-based BG is collecting cyber-dust - I was getting caught flat-footed a lot which meant AC was next to nothing. Have you had this problem? Thats an issue for any Dex tank you play in my book and the cost you pay for the higher AC you can achieve. Also with a monk level so long as he is in robes and w/o a shield he will get WIS AC which does not go away when flat footed though I doubt it would be enough to make up for the lost AC. Visor of Vigilance Grants Defense Awareness 2, and is kinda required for most tanks. These are the effects: Defensive Awareness (1): The character retains his dexterity bonus to AC, even if caught flat-footed or attacked by a hidden or invisible creature. Defensive Awareness (2): The character can no longer be flanked, since he can react to opponents on opposite sides of him as easily as he can react to a single attack. It also gives complete immunity to sneak attacks while you are in battle mode (it doesnt says this, but it does do that ). |
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jul 14, 2010 19:34:26 GMT
This build dual wields Katana's and wears Silks of the Irridescent, Mala Robes.
Also uses the Visor of Vigilance helm.
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Post by Yojimbo on Jul 14, 2010 19:40:45 GMT
Thats an issue for any Dex tank you play in my book and the cost you pay for the higher AC you can achieve. Also with a monk level so long as he is in robes and w/o a shield he will get WIS AC which does not go away when flat footed though I doubt it would be enough to make up for the lost AC. Visor of Vigilance Grants Defense Awareness 2, and is kinda required for most tanks. These are the effects: Defensive Awareness (1): The character retains his dexterity bonus to AC, even if caught flat-footed or attacked by a hidden or invisible creature. Defensive Awareness (2): The character can no longer be flanked, since he can react to opponents on opposite sides of him as easily as he can react to a single attack. It also gives complete immunity to sneak attacks while you are in battle mode (it doesnt says this, but it does do that ). When Flatfooted you lose Dexterity, Dodge, and Tumble AC. Uncanny Dodge and Defensive Awareness only let you retain Dexterity putting your AC down by ~32, 20 Dodge + 12 Tumble, for most tank builds. |
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Post by jonuhey on Jul 14, 2010 20:58:12 GMT
When Flatfooted you lose Dexterity, Dodge, and Tumble AC. Uncanny Dodge and Defensive Awareness only let you retain Dexterity putting your AC down by ~32, 20 Dodge + 12 Tumble, for most tank builds. I said that because you said it was a bane of any dex tank, and that isnt really true as you keep your dex to your AC when using this helmet. Being flat footed is the bane of ANY tank, maybe not of one with really great immunity coverage plus really high soak like CoT's, but it usually is. |
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jul 14, 2010 21:03:53 GMT
That is of course assuming the player actually has that helm, which is not at all for certain.
Or, of course another item with that feat on it.
Without it, what Yojimbo said is perfectly true, Dexers suffer greatly.
Cata
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Post by Yojimbo on Jul 15, 2010 15:49:56 GMT
But I should point out that it is not uncommon for Dexers to have 3 Rogue, 2 SD, or 2 Assassin for Uncanny Dodge. You can also easily splash 2, 5 for flank immunity, Dwarven Defender for Defensive awareness on some builds.
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Post by tomaan on Jul 15, 2010 17:36:43 GMT
But I should point out that it is not uncommon for Dexers to have 3 Rogue, 2 SD, or 2 Assassin for Uncanny Dodge. You can also easily splash 2, 5 for flank immunity, Dwarven Defender for Defensive awareness on some builds. I don't have the helmet so 99% of my dexers (ok, I only have 4 total) have either barby, rogue, or dwd splash for that very reason. except, of course, the dexer BG i referencd above (M11 - F4 - BG - 25) |
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