brute one-eyed

[taboodeeducation]

Due to interest and request this fella be posted.
This build is not refined, nor tweaked, and no play above level 40 yet.
I lurk in the lower level areas so can't give advice how it handles for the high stuff. If you want str assassin 14-20 / x5 weapon here something to play with ^_^
Sorry no screen shot either :S

A little different from the one I'm using (more practical with shield and bastard sword)

For those that don't want to read much hopefully I added everything right....

===Level 60=== Buffed out, NO demi or artifacts, Half-Orc one-eyed, str assassin

87ab (+2 if craft weapon/song 89ab), 54dc mortal strike, 61F 59R 57W saves HP?860?880?toughness
4 base attack per round, 14-20 / x5 bastard sword
Max Discipline, Tumble (well 60 points for max ac bonus), UMD, 31 concentration
Left over point can max out craft weapon / armor or whatever grabs your interest
Can cast assassin spell 1-4 (14 int)

Get another 3 to 4ab getting demi, gear, and artifact? never done, see if I assume wrongly :S
91ab(+2 craft weapon/song) 93ab
1,000hp, 56dc mortal strike?
saves +2 or +3?
63F 61R 59W
64F 62R 60W

*#* the stuff and bits *#*

Half-Orc +2 str, -2 int, -2 cha, Blooded, Toughness

one-eyed +2 str, +3 con, +3 wis, -2 cha, Cleave, free skill points +10 Hide, +10 Move Silent, +10 Intimidate

Creation stats | one-eyed mod
17 str | 19 str +2
14 dex | 14 dex, no change
13 con | 16 con +3
9 wis | 12 wis +3
14 int | 14 int, no change
6 cha | 4 cha -2

=Level 40 no buff or gear | +12gear (+6mod)

36 str | AB 44 holding weapon | 50AB (+16gmw can be 66ab)
14 dex | Saves 21F 24R 17W | 27F 30R 23W (+20saves 47F 50R 43W)
16 con | 440 HP | 680HP
14 int | 14-20 / x5 Bastard Sword |
12 wis |
4 cha |
Base Attack 47

Level 40 Mortal Strike 44dc with 12 gear
base dc 35 +half its Str mod 19/2=9 (35+9=44dc)

== Level 60

87ab, 54dc mortal strike, 61F 59R 57W saves HP?860?880?toughness
those stats are without any demi or nifty stuff/artifacts
can grab another +2ab/+2ac from skill points into craft weapon/song
or juggle saves feats with artifacts things

AB
46 str
other stats same
AB 44 +6 from 12 gear, +12 class ab(lbab? lvl 40-60) +5 str (all str from 40-60) +20ab buff(gmw/song/etc)
so... 50, 62, 67, == 87 with 4 base attacks per round, 89ab (craft weapon/song)

SAVES
+5 saves (bonus lvl 40-60)
26F 29R 22W
+6 from 12 gear
32F 35R 28W
+20 save gear
52F 55R 48W
+2+7 FW +4R from feats
61F 59R 57W

Level 60 Mortal Strike with 12 gear 54dc
base dc 35 +half Str mod 24/2=12, +7 (level 50 assassin dc bonus)
35+12+7= 47 54dc


\\\\\\\ LEVELING ////////

Dump all points into Str while leveling

Feats

at creation = Fighter Class, Evil Alignment for Assassin requirement
Bullheaded (for discipline skill affinity level 42)
Exotic Weapons

class at levels 1-4 fighter, 5-12 Assassin, 13-17 Weapon Master, 18-19 Assassin, 20 Fighter (putting max points Max concentration+Discipline) 21-40 assassin
take discipline/concentration when not cross class (fighter/weapon master)
while assassin take tumble(max 60 at level 57), I maxed UMD not sure whats really handy to have

*2nd level choose Fighter class still
2=Weapon Focus Bastard Sword
3=dodge
4=mobility
*5th level choose Assassin class now
6=spring attack
9=Expertise
12=whirlwind attack
*13 level choose Weapon Master now
13=weapon of choice, bastard sword
15=improve crit, bastard sword
*17 level choose assassin class now
18=blind fight
*20 level choose fighter class now, Max Out Concentration + Discipline
***21 level choose assassin class only now
21=power attack
24=great cleave, great str 1
27=overwhelming crit bastard sword
28=great str 2
30=dev crit bastard sword
32=great str 3
33=great str 4
36=great str 5 and 6
39=epic weapon focus bastard sword
40=great str 7
***
42=Bullhead/Skill Affinity Discipline
45=?saves+2F (?great fort?)
48=?saves+2W (?iron will?)
51=?saves+4R Epic Reflex
54=?saves+7F ?Legendary Fort?
57=?saves+7W ?Legendary Will?
60=?Armor Skin?

--== Level 60 skill points ==--
I use Epic? gloves of discipline +30 skill bonus points from gloves in town to prevent disarm/armor strip, since maxed at ... 23 at level 20 till level 43 can take it non cross class from skill affinity

Skill points pool of ?352? points? need to check
-63 Discipline
-60 Tumble
-63 UMD
-39 Total Concentration (base 31 points at level 60) (-23 class skill, -8*2= -16cross class)

-63 Craft Armor
-63 Craft Weapon
123 186..225...288...351

1 points left over? put 1 into open lock to help your lowbie get tags/ring or put another point into pickpocket or some skill to see what DC are on other stuff if build a rogue or something later for amusement. could swap points out and put into hide? think the assassin conceal spell get bonus from hide or another skill, though not sure what little difference make if shuffle points some.

probably want to juggle the feats around to make it more friendly or squeeze another feat out of it or so

I don't read the boards here much and this be my first post, but I'll try to check on this one to answer question or fix mistakes typed

enjoy

[taboodeeducation]

for later use

=== 01-10-2011 ===
* checked ab for tomaan from OCT 5, 2010 :S sorry for the way to long reply
seems 87 AB at level 60 with +12 gear for str and +20 from gmw, song, etc could be 88ab if put points into craft weapon, then 89ab from gear/song to get another +1 to get that 89ab without any demi, arti, and 14str gear (93AB possible long run)

* Also noticed missed 2 feats in leveling order that would've prevented being able to take Weapon Master levels arrghhh..... level 2 = Weapon Focus Bastard Sword, Level 9 = Expertise

[tomaan]

I played a build just like this up to lvl 60 (Tia I think), then reincarnated him to f2/cot8/asn30 for better saves (66/66/64).

At any rate, couple of thoughts...

Scimitar is a good option (11-20/x3 with oc/dc) that doesn't require exotic weapon feat.

Double check your ab. With base str of 50 and +14 gear, my max ab is 95 atm.

I traded craft armor for hide. Concealment is 54% in medium armor. Not great but better than nothing.

I didn't take bullheaded, but did take skill & epic skill focus discipline. I've hit the engine max of 127 but am gear/bard dependent to do it. Don't know if it'll be an issue, but only tagged to min.

The WM version was a monster through LLs...if you don't MS something, you bash it with a big crit. The COT version is a squishy tank in the hells. Conceal isn't high enough and not enough damage soak to go toe-to-toe with the baddies, so I have to pick my targets from the perimeter. With curse, so far, MS (DC 54) has been on - getting a good number of kills among the non-crit immune.

Over all, a very fun build to play imho

[taboodeeducation]

at level 40 naked, 44AB
BAB = 17
EBAB=10
Ability = 13
Weapon Focus=1
Epic Weapon Focus = 2
Weapon Master=1
+6 Ability (19 total if wearing 12 str gear)
50AB
+20 from gmw + songs/etc cap
70AB

Level 60
+5 ability (24 ability total) (10 str from level 40-60)
+12 LBAB
87AB
+1 craft weapon, then another +1 from craft if can get skills points to 80
88AB 89AB

if I did it right when just hit level 60 have
BAB= 17
EBAB = 10
Ability=24
Weapon Focus = 1
Epic Weapon Focus=2
Weapon Master = 1

AB 87
+1 craft weapon (per 40 points of current skill from base points, gear, and buffs) if maxed be at 63
AB 88 or 89 with some buffs or gear stack to 80

IF get better gear and later stuff done
AB 93


A little tricky to compare ab of mine to yours since I'm guessing in the dark for the feats you took for AB and craft weapon points, but you got 2ab str on me ^_^ and I have no 14 gear for str yet. (3ab total). This one lacks Epic prowless and Legendary Weapon Focus so another 3 or 4? (forgot what Legendary Weapon Focus Base bonus and extra bonus if have epic prowless +2 +1?) I'll fall short if you have. Then if you also took greater weapon focus +1, but my weapon master gives +1
so fall short by 6ab (or 7ab) with feats and str difference of our builds if both have +2 craft weapon ab bonus.
I'll have 89ab max level 60 and yours have 95ab is my guess why difference

hope this clears stuff up and didn't miss something again