Post by tomaan on Dec 10, 2010 19:49:53 GMT
Here's an alternative WM build I've been messing around with. He's pretty solid through 55 but honestly, not too sure about the Hells. I'm posting here because somebody was asking about a dual wield DwD build and I thought I'd through this one out as a concept/test build.
Goal: A dual wielder with high AB and survivable AC/damage soak
Build Notes: Saves are meh?, but this build is an offensive force. You hit everything quite a bit so your low damage per hit really adds up quickly - even more so against the non-crit-immune.
I took the extra WM levels for the extra AB, but you could easily go 5 DwD and 25 WM to get the DwD flanking immunity.
I chose damage soak to OC/DC but you could swap if you really like to live on the edge. The Legendary Battle Hardening feats give +5% damage soak each and I took four of them (+20%) - seemed worth sacrificing +1x to your crit multiplier.
I played this as a single wielder through lvl 38 - I didn't even take DwD until lvl 39 & 40. I did this to get as much Reflex save as possible (10 levels of WM pre-epic). You can easily take the DwD levels at any point.
Advantages: uber AB for a dual wielder - you rarely miss anything...even bosses (6 attacks @ 90+ w/haste); crit immunity; 9/- & 20% base damage soak.
Disadvantages: saves are mediocre at best; buff dependent; not as good damage soak and lower natural AC compared to a CC DwD; low skill points
Race: Dwarf
Subby: Howler (STR +6, CON +6, CHA -3, WIS -3, free feat: Dodge, free feat: Toughness, free feat: Exotic Weapon Proficiency)
Starting Stats [race+subby] lvl60+14:
STR: 14 [20] 56
Dex: 15 [15] 30
CON:16 [24] 39
INT: 14 [14] 28
WIS: 8 [5] 19
CHA: 8 [3] 17
Level Progression: Fighter (7), Weapon Master (10), Fighter (3), Weapon Master (18), DwD (2); Stat increases: Dex +1, Con +1, Str +18
Feats: Fxx - Fighter bonus feat/lvl; WMxx - WM bonus feat/lvl
1: Blooded; Expertise (F1)
2: Weapon Focus: Dw War Axe (F2)
3: Mobility
4: Spring Attack (F4)
6: Iron Will; Whirlwind Attack (F6)
9: Lightning Reflexes
12: Greater Weapon Focus: Dw War Axe
15: Ambidexterity
18: Improved Crit: Dw War Axe; Two-Weapon Fighting (F8)
20: Improved Two-Weapon Fighting (F10)
21: Epic Will
23: Epic Weapon Focus (WM13)
24: Epic Reflexes
26: Armor Skin (WM16)
27: Epic Fortitude
29: Epic Prowess (WM19)
30: Gr STR I
32: Epic Damage Reduction I (WM22)
33: Gr STR II
35: Epic Damage Reduction II (WM25)
36: Gr STR III
38: Epic Damage Reduction III (WM28)
39: Gr STR IV
42: Legendary Skill Affinity (Tumble)
45: Legendary Weapon Focus
48: Legendary Will
51: Legendary Battle Hardening I
54: Legendary Battle Hardening II
57: Legendary Battle Hardening III
60: Legendary Battle Hardening IV
Skills:
Concentration: 20
Craft Armor: leftover points....will be at least 40
Discipline: max
Listen: max
Tumble: 60 (stop at lvl 57)
AB:
BAB+Epic AB+LLAB+Feats+Str mod+WM-Dual Wield+max AB bonus=
20+10+15+8+23+8-4+20= 100
AC: (based on current gear)
base+dex+armor+armor bonus+dodge+deflection+natural+tumble+craft armor+feats+girding+shield=
10+3+8+18+20+17+20+12+1+2+2+12= 125 (w/strongheart)
Saves:
F: 63
R: 61
W: 59
This, as are most of my builds, is a work in progress. Feedback is always welcome.
T
Goal: A dual wielder with high AB and survivable AC/damage soak
Build Notes: Saves are meh?, but this build is an offensive force. You hit everything quite a bit so your low damage per hit really adds up quickly - even more so against the non-crit-immune.
I took the extra WM levels for the extra AB, but you could easily go 5 DwD and 25 WM to get the DwD flanking immunity.
I chose damage soak to OC/DC but you could swap if you really like to live on the edge. The Legendary Battle Hardening feats give +5% damage soak each and I took four of them (+20%) - seemed worth sacrificing +1x to your crit multiplier.
I played this as a single wielder through lvl 38 - I didn't even take DwD until lvl 39 & 40. I did this to get as much Reflex save as possible (10 levels of WM pre-epic). You can easily take the DwD levels at any point.
Advantages: uber AB for a dual wielder - you rarely miss anything...even bosses (6 attacks @ 90+ w/haste); crit immunity; 9/- & 20% base damage soak.
Disadvantages: saves are mediocre at best; buff dependent; not as good damage soak and lower natural AC compared to a CC DwD; low skill points
Race: Dwarf
Subby: Howler (STR +6, CON +6, CHA -3, WIS -3, free feat: Dodge, free feat: Toughness, free feat: Exotic Weapon Proficiency)
Starting Stats [race+subby] lvl60+14:
STR: 14 [20] 56
Dex: 15 [15] 30
CON:16 [24] 39
INT: 14 [14] 28
WIS: 8 [5] 19
CHA: 8 [3] 17
Level Progression: Fighter (7), Weapon Master (10), Fighter (3), Weapon Master (18), DwD (2); Stat increases: Dex +1, Con +1, Str +18
Feats: Fxx - Fighter bonus feat/lvl; WMxx - WM bonus feat/lvl
1: Blooded; Expertise (F1)
2: Weapon Focus: Dw War Axe (F2)
3: Mobility
4: Spring Attack (F4)
6: Iron Will; Whirlwind Attack (F6)
9: Lightning Reflexes
12: Greater Weapon Focus: Dw War Axe
15: Ambidexterity
18: Improved Crit: Dw War Axe; Two-Weapon Fighting (F8)
20: Improved Two-Weapon Fighting (F10)
21: Epic Will
23: Epic Weapon Focus (WM13)
24: Epic Reflexes
26: Armor Skin (WM16)
27: Epic Fortitude
29: Epic Prowess (WM19)
30: Gr STR I
32: Epic Damage Reduction I (WM22)
33: Gr STR II
35: Epic Damage Reduction II (WM25)
36: Gr STR III
38: Epic Damage Reduction III (WM28)
39: Gr STR IV
42: Legendary Skill Affinity (Tumble)
45: Legendary Weapon Focus
48: Legendary Will
51: Legendary Battle Hardening I
54: Legendary Battle Hardening II
57: Legendary Battle Hardening III
60: Legendary Battle Hardening IV
Skills:
Concentration: 20
Craft Armor: leftover points....will be at least 40
Discipline: max
Listen: max
Tumble: 60 (stop at lvl 57)
AB:
BAB+Epic AB+LLAB+Feats+Str mod+WM-Dual Wield+max AB bonus=
20+10+15+8+23+8-4+20= 100
AC: (based on current gear)
base+dex+armor+armor bonus+dodge+deflection+natural+tumble+craft armor+feats+girding+shield=
10+3+8+18+20+17+20+12+1+2+2+12= 125 (w/strongheart)
Saves:
F: 63
R: 61
W: 59
This, as are most of my builds, is a work in progress. Feedback is always welcome.
T