Blessed Mercurial Greatsword

[chirality]

I would really love to see a mercurial greatsword amongst Brother Maynard's cache of Blessed weapons.

Nearly every other CEP weapon is sold in Blessed form. One notable exception is the assassin dagger, although its exclusion is obviously quite appropriate.

Mercurial greatswords are, in my experience, the hardest weapon to find in the game. I understand the reasoning behind no magical versions being available from the Ascension merchants; despite some CEP weapons such as mauls being an option for purchase, certain other non-standard weapons are not. However, I believe that, in general, these other CEP weapons truly deserve to not be readily available. The assassin dagger, for example, has such a great critical threat range that it is highly-desirable for an assassin on HG. By contrast, the mercurial greatsword's damage and critical statistics are hardly high-powered at all given its size increase on HG. Due to the fact that Large creatures--the exclusive wielders of this weapon--are restricted by its Huge size, even the otherwise-impressive 2d6 damage and x4 critical multiplier aren't enough to merit it being equipped by, well, just about anybody. It seems to me that, in light of the near-universal lack of usage by anybody except people who really, really want to use one for non-min/max purposes, having an option for such people other than getting lucky on loot drops wouldn't be unreasonable.

Would it be unbalancing or otherwise detrimental in any way to gameplay if one could buy a Blessed mercurial greatsword from Brother Maynard? Unless there is a very good reason for an answer of "no", I would ask that this change be made.

[KnightErrant]

I'm guessing it's somewhere on the "to do" list along with 5000 other things...likely not near the top tho

KE.

[chirality]

Well, I figured if it was it definitely would be in the lower several thousand of those 5000 heh.

But I kind of doubt it ever was, I dunno.

Wouuldn't be that hard to do though, eh? Not very time-consuming at any rate.

[FunkySwerve]

I have a set someone, who graciously did them up, and whose name I'm ungraciously forgetting, made, though I need to go through them before adding them.

I'll mark it on the todo as a reminder for next update.

Funky

[chirality]

I'd appreciate it. Not a big deal by any means; just a thought I had several weeks ago and remembered earlier tonight.

Thanks.

[mrbadexample]

Awesome, now the small cache of Merc Greatswords I have will be ready to be used.

[chirality]

Got a level 29 one, but my toons keep dying before they can use it.

Maybe being able to use something other than a 100% mundane weapon until level 29 would help...

[MightyKhan]

whats stopping you from using a normal greatsword? its only 4/5 AB tops, unless you are a weaponmaster

[chirality]

Nothing...I didn't mean to imply that something was literally preventing me from just using a Large weapon + shield until level 29.

Nor that using a different weapon + shield wouldn't result in a hardier toon.

Of course, why bother with even speccing in mercurial greatsword in the first place then?

See where I'm going with this?

[MightyKhan]

no I don't actually. focusing in any type of weapon is worth the bother if you have a high level version laying about, but until you meet the requirements, its just common sense to go with whatever keeps you alive or whatever improves your damage output, even if that means using a type of weapon you weren't planning on using in the end-game.

[chirality]

Not sure why you felt it was necessary to critique my earlier post in the first place, let alone why you continue to seemingly make an attempt at winning an argument that I don't intend to even have.

I tried to make it clear with the first two sentences of my last post that I see the logic in your--for lack of a better term--argument. To clarify: No one is forcing me to use an inefficient and ineffective gear setup. I completely understand the point you make in your (last) post, and agree with it.

"Where" I was "going" was actually a critique of the mercurial greatsword itself as a weapon choice, but that's neither here nor there.

My apologies for somehow making you feel the need to defend someone or something.

And by the way, for the record: Yes, the toons I make that spec in that weapon are indeed weapon masters. And yes, in my opinion, when your entire build is centered around wielding a single weapon more effectively in combat, it's not much fun to play when you don't use that weapon. It's not as simple as "just" 4/5 AB. It's more like all the feats and class features you have that apply only to that weapon. I liken the situation to playing an assassin and desiring to use an assassin dagger early on, when it's completely pointless because you don't even get Mortal Strike till level 35. However, these circumstances are different in several ways that I believe are obvious enough to not require an explanation.

All that is just an aside though; I'm not saying that I somehow feel slighted by not being able to purchase a magical mercurial greatsword and therefore am being forced to suffer undue punishment by not being able to wield my weapon of choice until level 29. That post was in jest and not meant to be taken as any sort of complaint. Again, though, even if it was I don't understand why you felt the need to begin making comments like that. This thread had a simple purpose which had already been fulfilled, and unlike mrbadexample your post completely lacked anything other than a direct critique, and not even on the original topic itself.

I'm not intending any of this to be read with an angry or argumentative tone. Just my two cents on your comments.

[MightyKhan]

My comment was meant more as advice than critique. Using an alternative weapon simply doesn't occur to some. I see now that it has to you, but that fact was not immediately apparent from your post:
"Maybe being able to use something other than a 100% mundane weapon until level 29 would help..." since "my toons keep dying before they can use it". (I added since in between the two quotes to clarify my interpretation.)

[chirality]

As usual, bad wording on my part.

Was more of a self-deprecating joke along the lines of "I keep losing my toons before I can use this weapon that I really want to use".

The weapon in question (Weight of the World if I remember correctly) has now been deleted--interestingly enough within the last 40 minutes or so.

Anyway, yeah, maybe this would have been a better way to phrase that comment: "I play far too recklessly and my playing is hampered by far too many death-causing distractions to really play hardcore mode in the first place; building toons that spec in mercurial greatsword and are useless without wielding one but are similarly super-squishy even when wielding one does nothing to help my toons' survival rates. As a result I never get a (mercurial greatsword-specing) toon up to the level required to wield the desirable mercurial greatsword I have."



I interpreted your post(s) as basically along the lines of "stop complaning about your own choices; don't blame the module itself". Sorry if that was off-base, and again, even if it wasn't, I would absolutely agree with that line of thought had I been saying that. And since it appears as if I was, I can't blame you at all.

My real complaint would be about the weapon itself, although this isn't the palce for that rant and I don't think it's even worth making in the first place.

[gandoron]

My Str RDD is focused in Halbred and is a gnome base race. Which means that he couldn't even HOLD the weapon until he got the large form from the RDD conversion. Which was pretty funny.

Regarding the Merc Sword, it's a very newly added weapon and it's also hard to make a build around. So even if the weapon was available, it's in low demand. That's the primary reason that it isn't used much.

Personally it seemed that the large weapons aren't getting much love over the small/med sized ones, which they do traditionally. I believe some of the martial large weapons were slated for a bit of a nerf.

-G

[chirality]

Mercurial greatsword is in fact a Huge weapon (on HG), which is the primary reason behind my complaints about it.