Bazukar's Berzerker Beater

[bazukar]

Edit: realized this was in the wrong forum, build is as yet untested and not finalized. Deleted old thread and moved here for feedback.


Bazukar's Berzerker Beater - 22 mnk 13 WM 5 hrp

Human - Koly

base {sub} <60 w/ +14> (DD +arty)

Str- 15 {20} <60> (64)
Dex- 15 {20} <36> (40)
Con- 10 {12} <26> (32) Con arty
Int- 14 {16} <30> (34)
Wis- 14 {12} <26> (30)
Cha- 8 {6} <20> (24)

All points into STR

At creation - Expertise, strong soul

Take monk up to 7 picking up

Weapon focus
Whirlwind
+4 intimidate

8 WM - Weapon of choice Qstaff

Take WM up to 17 picking up

alertness
iron will
power attack

18-20 Monk levels

great cleave

Make sure you have the skills needed to qualify for HS
(4 disc, 4 srch, 6 lore, 8 persuade)

21-25 HS Pick up

Greater WF
Epic WF
Great dex
Great dex 2

26-28 WM Pick up

Epic prowess
Armor skin

29+ Monk

Imp crit
OC
DC
Great str 1-6
Legendary strong soul
Legendary WF



Final stats


AB 103 DD (16-20 x4) Resulting in a nice attack progression of

103 - 100 - 97 - 94 - 91 - 88 Mainhand
103 - 98 - 93 Bonus from haste and HS boots

Ac 131 DD + SH and asmo belt, 133 abos Qstaff, 135 Staff + gird, and you have the expertise option for another 5 if needed.

(AC and AB assumes 120 Craft, -1 if you cant hit that)

Arty- con
Pandect- Haven't decided. You could make a case for either of the craft pandects (leaning towards weapon myself) disarm or called shot.

Edit: oops forgot saves haha

F 62
R 64
W 63


Disc 63
Cr Arm 63
Cr Wpn 63
Conc 31
Parry 63
Listen 63
Tumble 60
UMD 19

Phys soak ends up rather decent with the right gear. 14% at DD from str mod, 5% SH, 10-15% from robes, 10-15% from bracers 10-15% from cloak resulting in a possibility of 50% to 65%, possibly more if you get good randoms or wear the right gear. (shroud of the holy dead from ely has 25%)

7:30 mins of toggleable crit immune from wholeness of body
15 mins of 62% conceal from empty body
4 mins or so if both on at the same time




So this is what I've been thinking of reincarnating my fist monk to. With the success I have been having with my rogue, I felt I needed to build a str tank, and this was what I came up with. Plus I've lost some of my hope for fist monks after some conversations here and in game with the staff

This guy is made to do absolutely brutal amounts of damage while being able to soak up and evade reasonable amounts of the same and holding up to almost all str checks and many dex ones. Even popping off expertise to hit 140 ac he could still retain 98 ab and continue to dish solid damage.


I haven't finalized alot about this setup yet, and am still trying to accquire certian pieces of gear. I also need to pick a vestige, which is harder than I thought. Any thoughts, ideas and criticisms welcome

[fallenwizard]

At 2xD the str modifier is 27, I think I'd lower str by 2 for dex for +1ac and slightly better dex check resist (46with asmo belt). This'd cost 1 ab, but 102 imo is plenty with monk progression - not godlike but good.

Another option would be to concider using toyshop boots, 1 less attack than HS boots, but lasts sooooooooooooo much longer, sometimes HS boots gets wastd if party suddenly decides to afk etc. Replacing HS with shadow dancer for epic dodge (free's 2 pre epic feats to take greater wep foc and imp crit) and swap 2 of the dexs feats you get HS 1/5 into epic dodge +something, propably epic will if planning on using ely robe over dimmaks or great dex1, would result odd ending dex, but still helps with checks. Now ofcourse this'd also cost 25% elem immunities when comparing toyshop boots vs harper, but 1 "permanent" attack vs 2 attack for 10 mins per rest that cant be toggled on and off.

Anyways, those are build options, the lay out you have here seems solid and working, finetuning comes to player style etc, personaly I'd give out slight bit of offence for boosted defence, but thats just my call on the case.

[bazukar]

I'm actually glad you brought that up, I keep forgetting about SD splash. You'd think I'd have learned after partyin with your mmod haha.

I could see lowering str for dex to help on checks at the cost of 1 ab, but I was thinkin max offense as my goal for this. I had an abyss running marilith killer in mind when I was building it. Heh as far as godlike AB, that's not possible with monk CC

I don't really like the thought of TS boots on a non dexer. Not that it wouldnt be effective, and you are right the buff does last alot longer, but that being down 10 ac on death seems pretty harsh considering at best I hit 135 ac pre expertise. The other thing being that other than the attack TS boots are pretty terrible. Maybe not as big a deal with the SD splash tho. Hmm. Having epic dodge would be a big boost as well. Definitely something to think about.

My only other concern is the loss of the GR pots. Shadow shield is nice, but GR in a can is pretty sweet. I definitely noticed the difference on my rogue having to restore and heal over 2 rounds rather than all at once. And in abyss there are so many inflictions in addition to the incoming damage. Crutch? Yeah probably haha.
I noticed your guy didnt have any real problems but hes a bit different

Losing the other attack would be irritating but manageable. Irritating because at 93 AB it would hit a decent amount of the time.

I could definitely see this build going either way, and being succesful both ways. Decisions decisions.

Now I need help on the vestige. Anyone know what the effect actually is on cape of the blood war general? No one seems to have the numbers/duration

[fallenwizard]

Icevvind got that on his AA I think as vestige. Sadly I cant remember what the numbers were. Havent seen Ice in a month or so, maybe he lurks around in forums or you could send him a PM to ask details.

I used to have toyshop boots on a barbarian long ago, I used to have one of the quickslot pages filled with 3 pairs of boots to equip and use special + 2 other pairs of boots to swap when need better defence for quick swap, also after death. Ofcourse, this means 100% misschance when you swap, but usually I spent half a round drinking neg potion at least for buff after death, so it isnt that big of a deal.

It is true that missing attack with AB of 93 is indeed a bit hurtfull, but on the other hand, it is also extra attack at ab of 98 for tims when HS boots are out. As for defencively, I've never had real problems with dodge AC, especialy after augs came out. UEF on Than3 ammy is nice, AOV CL 45/50 augs on items not to mention your monk is 5xD so max pens at 10 dodge. After death just swap other kind of boots untill you get buffs up. Note you can have several pairs of toyshop boots, harpers only 1, if you die to say instakill effect after using harper boots, you're pretty much screwed.

Note: Not asking to nerf toyshop boots to have only 1 per char

[bazukar]

Icevvind got that on his AA I think as vestige. Sadly I cant remember what the numbers were. Havent seen Ice in a month or so, maybe he lurks around in forums or you could send him a PM to ask details.

Yeah I guess the big question is, does it last at least 5 mins? And either way, does it go outside the cap for ab? Says stacking which makes me curious. Not gonna burn the vestige if I don't know beforehand. Them things aint that easy to come by


Mostly I guess I've just been on a damage kick lately, seen alot of melee builds and toons with 94-5 ab and like 35-40k damage per run I took the fist monk through an entire abyss cycle and he did pretty well on survivability, so I was looking to max out damage. Generally I don't waste too many HS boot charges but that's a good point you make. Group generally only wastes em once, I get cranky and turn up the troll

Not asking to nerf toyshop boots to have only 1 per char

This is what I'm afraid of happening tbh lol. Part of the reason I went with HS and moved my monk to staff is the ideas floating around for the weapon edits. Sort of a pre-emptive strike if you will.

Honestly the HS and SD splashes are both good. I wish reinc was less than 3 months, I'd actually like to try both and see what the difference in numbers are. If it was a month I'd def give it a whirl.

[KnightErrant]

Seems it lasts 1.5 Minutes and is outside the +20 cap, so it stacks.

KE.

[bazukar]

How much does the buff increase AB and damage? 1.5 mins 2x a day seems pretty dang short. The cloak is nice but I'd be hard pressed to pick that over some of the other vestiges, especially considering that in the cloak slot you can put a wrap or shroud.

[Vichya]

It's +2 to AB and damage for 1.5 minutes.

[bazukar]

Not worth it then. Thanks for the response.