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Post by fraglord85 on Mar 29, 2012 9:57:42 GMT
hey i was wondering if my shifter would be at 80 with 5 druid 7 ranger and 28 shifter how would the ab be if i drop Epic prowers Epic wep focus and LL wep focus ? and replace those feats with paragorn humanoid undead wildshape construct those 3 feats drop 6 ab and gain 2 AB from para focus so in the end u lose 4 ab ?? would it still be viable ?
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Post by uncanny on Mar 29, 2012 10:58:46 GMT
I'd imagine so, the question really shouldn't be about AB though, more what you want it to be. If you want it to be a melee-only, then I'd shuffle out most of the shifter levels in favour of more ranger levels. On my first melee type shifter I went with 17 shft, 5 druid, 18 ranger and just cracked 99ab on the important shapes at 60 without EWF, though I had prowess. It hurt more with the less martial-focussed shapes, though on middle layer hells runs I still continuously got a reasonably high hit rate with martial shapes. I since rebuilt it to be predominantly ranger-that-can-shift and have not regretted it since.
Another thing to think about is you're still losing that 6ab overall. If you plan to run in areas built for Paragon levels, my guess is this will hurt you more there than on Legendary areas.
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Post by desocupado on Mar 29, 2012 11:44:05 GMT
I never considered using LWF, due lack of feats, but this distribution 5 druid 7 ranger and 28 shifter, has full plymorph level, so it's AB should be enough, as long as you have the corresponding LFF 3 and or PFF.
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Post by uncanny on Mar 29, 2012 11:55:24 GMT
I never considered using LWF, due lack of feats, but this distribution 5 druid 7 ranger and 28 shifter, has full plymorph level, so it's AB should be enough, as long as you have the corresponding LFF 3 and or PFF. PL is same regardless of distrubution of ranger, shifter, druid level counts - so that won't change. You cannot get Wildshape LFF without 17 levels of shifter though. However LFF2 is needed for epic weapon focus to be transferred, LFF3 is needed for LWF (if you have it).
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Post by desocupado on Mar 29, 2012 15:38:06 GMT
Losing so much ab is a bad idea on humanoid shapes... They already have subpar AB. It would be more startegic to use dragon instead in that case.
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