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Post by Ryu-Kishin on Feb 22, 2013 23:53:21 GMT
Hey guys I saw a build running around that I really liked that used shard but I only have access to siren. It was dual wielding dexterity based with katanas and I want something VERY similar but not sure what epics I need and gets to take and stuff! Someone please help me come up with a build to use that will gt me nice and far! Thanks so much!
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Post by thomascovenant on Feb 23, 2013 0:17:08 GMT
i suggest you to take a look on the builds who are on the forum , there you can find pretty nice builds form good builders
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Post by arek on Feb 23, 2013 6:22:38 GMT
Siren probably isn't the best choice for a battle-bard. Are you willing to go back and get another secret race? If so, I'd recommend grabbing Wraith. To do this, you'll need to do the following: Go on a Dachy run, asking to use the blood to get a subrace after killing dachy, then go to the Sphinx after defeating Dachy. You'll need his blood to offer the sphinx, and a Glasdir (which drops in the maze as well) to get to the real Sphinx from his statue (just like when you got Siren, except with Dachy's blood instead of MoaD's). If you can get Wraith and want to do this, let me know and I'll see about fixing up a reasonable build for it. --Arek P.S. If you really want to use Siren, I'd look into making a caster bard instead of a battle bard, but personally I'd prefer Wraith even then, for the specials it gets.
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Post by Torin on Feb 23, 2013 7:14:45 GMT
I would try to buy a UR subby via !bazaar channel or market. Should be around 100 mio.
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Post by arek on Feb 23, 2013 7:41:28 GMT
IMO, Wraith beats most UR subbies. Only Chaos Gnome, Aleithian Dwarf, and perhaps Planewalker make any real sense as far as URs go. The feats are mostly useless on Chaos Gnome and completely useless on Aleithian Dwarf for the Razor-Blade Bard - Chaos Gnome would wind up with the same overall feats as Siren, and both Aleithian Dwarf and Planewalker would wind up feat-tight (meaning at least -2 GDex feats on both), tho the Dwarf would probably end up with a better stat spread. Wraith is in the same boat as Planewalker, but gets innate Sleep, Death, and True Fear immunities (Fear is redundant w/Pal, but the others aren't), among other things, and could be used to make quite a good battle bard. --Arek
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Post by chirality on Feb 24, 2013 3:07:32 GMT
Wraith is a very nice subbie. It's quite adaptable for a wide spectrum of build/class types, and really holds serious weight due to the immunes.
Arek, if anything Wraith is even better than you expect (edit: for the build in question), because pally doesn't get Aura of Courage until level 2, so there'd be no overlap with a 1pal splash.
Thus, win.
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Post by arek on Feb 27, 2013 6:18:33 GMT
That's a great point, chirality. Razor-blade, however, splashes 4pal, so it IS redundant for that build, but after trying to make a dual-wielding wraith bard and failing (nothing like getting only 91-92 AB at most pre-paragon with full CW and a DEX arti), I'm working out a wraith bard that gets good AC, good Conceal, and full-sized epics to boot. Don't know when I'll get around to posting it, tho. --Arek
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Post by chirality on Feb 27, 2013 7:15:17 GMT
Ah my bad I misread the thread title, thought it was only 1 pal Although obviously if I had read more carefully (and took a second to think about it) that would have been clear Sorry
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