Semi-Universal UR Warchanter (24brd/16dwd)

[The_Brute]

After hitting level 40 and thinking of how close I am to being able to use UR races and after talking with CataclysmicDeath online, I got an idea on how to even go about building this. Thus, I came up with this. It's a semi-universal build that is meant to tank with the best and live to tell the tale.

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Dwarf: Aleithian Dwarf
(DWARF EDITS: +2 CONSTITUTION, -2 CHARISMA)
(FREE: DODGE, SPELL FOCUS: TRANSMUTATION)
(-2 CONSTITUTION, +2 INTELLIGENCE, +7 CHARISMA)

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Starting Stats:
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Strength: 17 (17)
Dexterity: 14 (14)
Constitution: 12 (10)
Wisdom: 08 (08)
Intelligence: 12 (14)
Charisma: 11 (18)

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Level Progression:
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10 Bard (Change Alignment to Lawful at 10)
16 Dwarven Defender (Change Alignment to Neutral at 26)
14 Bard (No More Alignment Changes Necessary)

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Stat Progression:
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4 Strength
6 Dexterity
10 Strength

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Feat Progression:
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01: Strong Soul
03: Curse Song
06: Toughness
09: Weapon Focus: Heavy Mace
12: Metamagic (Still Spell)
15: Metamagic (Extend Spell)
18: Improved Critical: Heavy Mace

21: Epic Weapon Focus: Heavy Mace
24: Armor Skin
24: Epic Prowess (Dwarven Defender Bonus Feat)
27: Great Strength I
30: Great Strength II
33: Great Strength III
36: Great Strength IV
39: Great Strength V
39: Lasting Inspiration (Bard Bonus Feat)

41: Read Illusion Tome!
42: Legendary Weapon Focus: Heavy Mace
45: Legendary Hardened Soul
48: Greater Weapon Focus: Heavy Mace
51: Great Strength VI
54: Great Strength VII
57: Great Strength VIII
60: Great Strength IX

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Skill Progression:
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63 Craft Armor
63 Discipline
63 Listen
63 Perform
63 Tumble
00 (Free skillpoints left for your choice, I personally will)
--- (go with 30 Concentration, Rest Use Magic Device)

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Ending Stats at 60:
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Strength: 40 (54)
Dexterity: 20 (34)
Constitution: 10 (24)
Wisdom: 08 (22)
Intelligence: 14 (28)
Charisma: 18 (32)

AB: 90+ (buffed with wc spells)
AC: 130+ (buffed with wc spells)

Notes:
 - None currently!

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What do you guys think? Look decent? Improvements? Comments? Suggestions? Throw 'em my way!

The Brute

[desocupado]

Do you really find +13 Physical damage worth 7-11 AC points? (Bard CC WC are meant to be dexters)
This build seems really squishy without critical immunity or High resistances, even with the "Ethereal Visage" concealment (80%).

AC for any Str tank in medium armor
10 - base
17 - natural (+20 strongheart if 40 str and less than 21 RDD levels)
5+18 - armor modifer (armor bonus + base armor type)
8 - dex modifier (may be limited by armor type)
17 - deflection
20 - dodge + haste
12 - tumble (depends on skill level)
2 - armor skin
2+15 - shield modifier
Immortal Total 126
Deflection Artifact +3 (Deflection +20)
Strongheart +3 (Natural AC +20)
Guirding of the faithful +4 (Shield and Armor AC)
Craft Armor skill (+1/+2)
Maximum total: 136-138

[The_Brute]

You get critical immunity from war cry by the way.

[The_Brute]

And I guess I can switch the dex and str around and have 20 str/40dex

[The_Brute]

STR BASED AC (USING BASE 3 LIGHT ARMOR):
10 Base + 12 Tumble + 17 Shield + 2 Armor Skin + 17 Deflection + 12 Dexterity + 20 Armor + 20 Dodge + 17 Natural + 2 Craft Armor = 129 + 4 Girding (you have this so easy to get the AC for it) = 133 Final with that gear. Add in strongheart, asmo artifact + double demi and you got a whopping 141! (add one more for +2 dex in paragons)

DEX BASED AC (USING BASE 3 LIGHT ARMOR):
10 Base + 12 Tumble + 17 Shield + 2 Armor Skin + 17 Deflection + 21 Dexterity + 20 Armor + 20 Dodge + 17 Natural + 2 Craft Armor = 138 + 4 Girding (you have this so easy to get the AC for it) = 142 add in asmo artifact for a 145

STR and DEX versions AC isnt that big of a difference thanks to strongheart (if you can find one) and base 3 light armor), I will stick with strength thanks.

[The_Brute]

Using Skaldclan will improve the build greatly, but I am not fortunate enough to have the subrace myself.

Dwarf: Skaldclan
STR: 15
DEX: 15
CON: 10
WIS: 8
INT: 14
CHA: 12

3dex/17str

Pre-Epic Feats: Strong Soul, Curse Song, Dodge, Toughness, WF Heavy Mace, Extend Spell, Improved Critical Heavy mace

Epic Feats: EWF Heavy Mace, Epic Prowess, Armor Skin, Great Strength 1-4, GWF Heavy Macel, Lasting Inspiration

LL Feats: LWF Heavy mace, Hardened Soul, Great Strength 5-8, ESF Perform

Will have 44str(58 with +14), 22(36 with +14)

[Hercules]

Hi

I have recently also made a WC, using the same ideas tossed back and forth.
My main goal was to get Str around 40, and as much Dex as possible.
In my opinion Deso is right on the money, you should go Dex based.

Your conclusion is also spot on, Skaldclan would improve the build greatly. I have been trying to get one myself but with no luck.
Thats about the only race that will do , if you want to have a UNI Dex based chanter that still do some descent damage.
I had to go with Shard, and thus do a lot lesser damage. ( I went all dex, and skipped str. )

My build is 0x Demi yet, but I might change it to get more str after I demix2 it, and hopefully get my hands on Skaldclan, which is harder to find than a duck in a gator farm.


Herc