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Jun 20, 2013 13:03:17 GMT
Post by tank on Jun 20, 2013 13:03:17 GMT
was referring to not only this thread, but really any thread you post in is always to cause drama. As for bashing my builds and my ability in the game, try a new tack, been there, done that several times in fact, seems to be the favourite fall back of almost every troll on these boards when they run out of original material. The t-shirts getting a little frayed and patched now. maybe this time you'll get the hint.
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Jun 20, 2013 13:27:56 GMT
Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jun 20, 2013 13:27:56 GMT
Hmm would seem that is was google chrome playing up, logged on using internet explorer and seems to be working fine.
And can I just say holy cat poop in a handbasket I just discovered the block function. Now to try to delete all my irrelevant posts now that I can't actually see the asshat I replied to....tum tiddle dee dee
If anyone else is having similar trouble posting with Google Chrome, try using IE as it seems to have cured all my ails with regards to posting at least.
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Jun 20, 2013 13:51:13 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2013 13:51:13 GMT
I am glad that the teachers at school didnt assume I was a trouble maker just because my brother was, cause I would of had a pretty rough time. Good for you. Now that we are on the internet, we identify you by your CD Key and IP Address. Account name too, but oh wait in this case there's already been over 100 accounts from this source.
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Jun 20, 2013 14:25:51 GMT
Post by Fade on Jun 20, 2013 14:25:51 GMT
Am I the only one that thinks this drama is a complete derail. Pretending to be a new=annoying.. Ok, I share that opinion. But this derail has turned into senseless drama which seems to attract 'people who like drama'.. I've read this and it's looks more like personal insults and flames.
Can someone just lock this thread? Or beat someone with a drama stick?
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Jun 20, 2013 14:31:20 GMT
Post by merrymaiden on Jun 20, 2013 14:31:20 GMT
I'm not sure who you are talking about with the over 100 accounts, if you are talking about Alpha, there may be a lot of accounts at that 1 address but I know at least one person at that address that has never ever begged, spammed or made trouble, Im not sure of the relevance of your comment. Lots of people have more than one account, I had three, one for hardcore, one for main characters and one for when I just wanted anonymity, I cant see anything wrong with that. My problem is more with the way people seem to think they can talk to others and treat them. You tend to find the most respected managers/people in positions of power are not those that belittle others, talk down to them or try and make them look small (whether with cause or not) but who handle things fairly without being heavy handed or sarcastic. People who have god complexes do not make good leaders they make good dictators, and this is not directed at anybody just an opinion.
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Jun 20, 2013 14:41:04 GMT
Post by tank on Jun 20, 2013 14:41:04 GMT
I'm not sure who you are talking about with the over 100 accounts, if you are talking about Alpha, there may be a lot of accounts at that 1 address but I know at least one person at that address that has never ever begged, spammed or made trouble, Im not sure of the relevance of your comment. Lots of people have more than one account, I had three, one for hardcore, one for main characters and one for when I just wanted anonymity, I cant see anything wrong with that. My problem is more with the way people seem to think they can talk to others and treat them. You tend to find the most respected managers/people in positions of power are not those that belittle others, talk down to them or try and make them look small (whether with cause or not) but who handle things fairly without being heavy handed or sarcastic. People who have god complexes do not make good leaders they make good dictators, and this is not directed at anybody just an opinion. I could see your point, it would make sense if the dm team, along with all the players that have attempted to help chaos in the past, hadn't had to deal with chaos and his antics for several years. Simple fact is, chaos had ruined the gaming experience for anyone associated with his IP(new accounts), and nobody is to blame for that other than chaos. There is no way to actually know it's chaos or not other than waiting to see if he dissapears and a new account pops up.
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Jun 20, 2013 15:58:17 GMT
Post by FunkySwerve on Jun 20, 2013 15:58:17 GMT
Spite was not the motivation behind my post, I saw someone asking for help and what help did they receive from the administration? The assumption was obviously made that a trouble maker was back but this assumption seems to be incorrect. I haven't seen an iota of evidence to suggest that he is anyone but another alt. The 'assumption' as you put it, is that someone using an ip address has some relation to it - not exactly a huge leap. No account sharing that ip - and there have been a LOT of them - has ever claimed to be using it from a public institution like a university. To the contrary, they have claimed to be family members, when they're called out for pretending to be totally unaware of HG's nuts and bolts. And in fact, we've had contacts via other ips claim the same thing, and offer to talk to the 'parent' about the 'kid's' behavior. By this ip addresses' own claims, they're either living on a polygamist compound where no one ever talks to each other, or they're completely full of crap. That's not an assumption, that's a fact. Funky
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Jun 20, 2013 16:09:58 GMT
Post by FunkySwerve on Jun 20, 2013 16:09:58 GMT
First of all I wasn't asking you to tell KE off Funky, you misunderstood my post, perhaps I should have said I am waiting for my telling off, I was expecting you to tell me off for my post not KE for his. Why on earth would I expect you to go against a DM? I guess because I don't expect our forum members to post things dumb enough that they assume I'm going to tell them off for them. Sorry for overestimating you. If you need me to explain to you what false pretenses are, there's likely little point to this conversation. If actual money was involved, rather than cyber property, they would be subject to prosecution under federal law for wire fraud. The problem isn't that he's asking for help, as anyone who has ever seen me respond to the thousands of honest requests for help during your time here ought to know. The problem is that he's making the request in order to convince players that he's new, so that he can defraud them. But he has. Repeatedly, over a period of years. It's such a well-established pattern of behavior that it'd be admissible in court as an exception to the hearsay rule. Have I ever said otherwise? Whence the totally unfounded skepticism? Yes. After all, you're not the ones who have to waste their leisure time figuring out ways to deal with his moronic antics. Or do you enjoy having your time wasted as much as you seem to enjoy wasting mine? Then why on earth are you defending it? Funky
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Jun 20, 2013 16:15:33 GMT
Post by KnightErrant on Jun 20, 2013 16:15:33 GMT
Digging around everywhere and did not find it where can I go best places to find items for using at 1-10, 11-20, 21-30, 31-40 any ideas would be nice and thx for the idea. The username that posted this (Alpha Radiation) has the same IP address AND birthday as the username (Valkyrie Forbidden) that posted this two months before. highergroundpoa.proboards.com/thread/23134/Hello-help?page=1While neither one of the posts is asking for free gear, they also didn't turn it down when offered. I received many in game complaints by players that were incensed -to put it mildly- when they found out they had given gear to someone who was not a new player... If Valkyrie Forbidden was in fact a new member of the family playing these complaints to me were unfounded... I made the post "outing" Alpha after I noticed that there was yet another post from someone with the same IP address AND birthday as Valkyrie Forbidden, while I cannot say for certain it is the same person I considered the "odds" of having the same November birthday listed to be quite astronomical. This was all after, as Nahorl pointed out, there had been a long DM thread concerning the NUMEROUS complaints being levied by players against players from this IP address -(The most I have had since becoming a staff member)-. and this was all after the head of the household of said IP address had assured us via staff members from his guild that this nonsense -(Starting new accounts and pretending to be a new player)- would stop. Misunderstandings like this would likely NEVER happen again if people from this IP address didn't feel the need to "be someone new" every few months. Most everyone here wants to help new players out but the actions of players from this address have made most players leery of helping legitimately new players in the fear that it's yet another version of player "X" scamming freebies. "Officer" KE will continue to watch/police anymore nonsense from this IP address since he and quite a few other staff members are completely fed up with whole thing. If Alpha and Valkyrie are actually both unique players from the same IP address and share the same birthday I humbly and sincerely apologize for jumping to conclusions. KE.
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Jun 20, 2013 16:21:09 GMT
Post by FunkySwerve on Jun 20, 2013 16:21:09 GMT
If Alpha and Valkyrie are actually both unique players from the same IP address that has over a dozen usernames listed and share the same birthday I humbly and sincerely apologize for jumping to conclusions. KE. What, polygamists can't have twins? Sheesh, KE, you're such a hardass. Funky
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Jun 20, 2013 17:52:14 GMT
Post by arek on Jun 20, 2013 17:52:14 GMT
Just to clear something up: Chaos did ask to trade for loot (in game) as Valkyrie Forbidden, but without having much of anything to trade for said loot as far as I could tell.
--Arek
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Jun 20, 2013 18:19:02 GMT
Post by Torin on Jun 20, 2013 18:19:02 GMT
... the same IP address and share the same birthday ... That reminds me of THE CORNRATS!
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Jun 20, 2013 18:34:52 GMT
Post by chirality on Jun 20, 2013 18:34:52 GMT
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Jun 20, 2013 18:46:50 GMT
Post by CataclysmicDeath on Jun 20, 2013 18:46:50 GMT
First of all I wasn't asking you to tell KE off Funky, you misunderstood my post, perhaps I should have said I am waiting for my telling off, I was expecting you to tell me off for my post not KE for his. Why on earth would I expect you to go against a DM? I guess because I don't expect our forum members to post things dumb enough that they assume I'm going to tell them off for them. Sorry for overestimating you. Apology accepted Secondly do explain to me what exactly is reprehensible about asking for info on WHERE to FIND loot? It was a very polite post imo. They even said thanks in advance. If you need me to explain to you what false pretenses are, there's likely little point to this conversation. If actual money was involved, rather than cyber property, they would be subject to prosecution under federal law for wire fraud. The problem isn't that he's asking for help, as anyone who has ever seen me respond to the thousands of honest requests for help during your time here ought to know. The problem is that he's making the request in order to convince players that he's new, so that he can defraud them. I'm well aware of what false pretences are Funky and normally, apart form sometimes (not always but sometimes) thinking your attitude kinda stinks (my opinion and as a lawyer I'm sure you'll agree I'm entitled to it, I'm also pretty sure you feel the same way about my attitude 90% of the time but meh I digress) I would never try to say that you are ever anything but helpful to players. Just out of interest, what are you going to do if Alpha does prove to be the youngest kid of the Parental Account and not Chaos and therefore innocent of the accusations being thrown against him? Cause in the real world, correct me if I'm wrong but instead of him being prosecuted for fraud wouldn't he be able to sue for liable? And you say that all the DM's are fed up of it? You think the players are any less fed up of it? Yes. After all, you're not the ones who have to waste their leisure time figuring out ways to deal with his moronic antics. Or do you enjoy having your time wasted as much as you seem to enjoy wasting mine? After all we're the ones who see the begging daily when we are in game....... Then why on earth are you defending it? Funky I'm not trying to waste your time Funky nor am I defending the behaviour you are claiming that Alpha is responsible for, I'm trying, obviously poorly to ask for concrete proof of such behaviours before I go off half cocked and blacklisting the guy from any and all parties I run with and put him permanently on ignore. The fact that his IP address and birthday are the same means it is highly possible, even likely that it is the same person doesn't really do it for me considering one of the best behaved members of our community also has the same IP. Heck my wife has the same IP as me, you guys gunna string her up as well cause she might be me? Unlike others I wont instantly accept what I'm told by some one just cause he or she has a DM Nameplate. Sorry but I've been burned by people in authority too many times to automatically trust some ones say so. Especially when you have DM's who have already proven to be dishonest, no matter how well meaning that dishonesty may or may not seem. Cata
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Jun 20, 2013 19:10:00 GMT
Post by chirality on Jun 20, 2013 19:10:00 GMT
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