Taz (F:34, DwD:1, HS:5)

[tomaan]

I've had a few inquiries about this build so I figured I'd post it.

The goal is a balanced dual-wielder that's not a ranger (nothing against rangers, just wanted to try it with a different class). Threw in a level of DwD for Dwarven War Axe shield bonus and Harper Scout for extra attacks and Dex bonus. Taz works pretty well in this regard pre-demi, but does very well with Asmo gear and demi stat bonuses. Won't beat Barb or staffy on damage, but can certainly hold his own. Taz is VERY gear dependent and needs a BUR subby to work....not recommended for the new player.

I created him before the update to Fighter (Dex/Str) bonus -- they were supposed to be added automatically, but I'm not sure they were.....the version I'm posting below assumes they are. Without any further ado, here he is:

Race: Dwarf
Subby: Kolyarut

Stats (+Dwarf)[+Koly]-->lvl 60 pre-demi & +14 gear
STR: 14 (14) [19]-->64
DEX: 16 (16) [21]-->42
CON: 16 (18) [20]-->34
INT: 12 (12) [14]-->28
WIS: 8 (8) [6]-->20
CHA: 8 (6) [4]-->18

Level Progression: F: 1-9, DwD: 10, F:11-35, HS:36-40
(progression isn't too important, just don't take Harper Scout levels until after lvl 21 so you can still get Great Dex at HS:1 and HS:5)

Pre Epic Feats (in order): Blooded, Iron Will, Alertness, Toughness, Cleave, Ambidexterity, Lightning Reflexes

Epic Feats (in order): Great Str 1-->6; Great Dex 2

Harper Scout Feats (in order): Great Dex 1, Great Dex 3

Fighter Feats (in order): Weapon Proficiency (Exotic); Weapon Focus (Dw. War Axe); Weapon Specialization (Dw War Axe); Greater Weapon Focus (Dw War Axe); Improved Critical (Dw War Axe); Power Attack; Great Cleave; Two Weapon Fighting; Improved Two Weapon Fighting; Improved Parry; Armor Skin; Epic Weapon Focus; Epic Weapon Specialization; Overwhelming Critical; Devastating Critical; Epic Prowess-->Str (Fighter Swap); Epic Prowess-->Str (Fighter Swap); Epic Prowess

Legendary Feats (in order): Legendary Skill Affinity: Tumble; Legendary Weapon Focus; Legendary Weapon Specialization; Legendary Will; Great Str 7; Great Dex 4; Great Dex 5

Paragon Feats (in order): Paragon Weapon Focus; Paragon Weapon Specialization; Paragon Balance; Environmental Adaptivity 1-3


Skills
Concentration: ~20
Listen: 43 (maxed at level 40)
Tumble: 60
Parry: maxed
Lore: 6 (HS requirement)
Search: 4 (HS requirement)
Persuade: 8 (HS requirement)
Discipline: remainder


AC: 131 (w/gird)
AB: 96
Saves: 63(F)/64(R)/62(W)

Notes:
Uses Saves Artifact
Uses Moliated Harper Scout Boots
Uses Strongheart
Stats shown are all pre-demi using gear and arti listed above
AC with Demi/Asmo Gear (and gird): 136

Pros:
+61 damage on main weapon with Paragon Weapon Specialization and Whetstone
Makes all Str and most Dex checks in the Hells
5 rounds of invincibility with Greater Parry
Includes Epic Dodge and maxed out Parry/Fighter Advanced Defense
Fighter gets +2 to Dex and Str in Legendary Levels

Cons:
No crit immunity
Getting caught flatfooted is detrimental to Taz's health
Gear dependent to max skills

[chirality]

Cool build.

I never realized you can just do 1 splash DD and receive the AC.

That seems a bit odd, but I guess nowhere near troubling enough to be a balance concern.

I didn't notice the fighter improvements added on my old fighter but then I can barely remember what his stats were anyway and without having any way to have a log-return type check it's hard to tell.

[KnightErrant]

iirc when the next Weapon Edits go in Dwarf Axe AC will be restricted to Dwarf only subs and not include "any race" subs...tho tbh, the edits listed have been waiting for a really really long time.


KE.

[chirality]

I sure hope not...seeing as how only Howler and XRs fits that criteria...that would deal a pretty painful blow to DwD build variation...

If the AC is an issue wouldn't it make more sense to restrict it via DD levels/CC rather than by subrace?

[buddhamind]

Are the AC/AB/Saves at level 60, non-demi, with arti, and with strongheart?

[tomaan]

Jun 12, 2013 11:58:03 GMT buddhamind said:

Are the AC/AB/Saves at level 60, non-demi, with arti, and with strongheart?

Yes. Edited to reflect the same.

Jun 12, 2013 3:23:45 GMT KnightErrant said:

iirc when the next Weapon Edits go in Dwarf Axe AC will be restricted to Dwarf only subs and not include "any race" subs...tho tbh, the edits listed have been waiting for a really really long time.

Yes, I remember that from when I posted Pachydermus Wrex a year and a half ago . If I can get Taz to double demi by then, I can make it work with Howler.



There's also another version of this that uses Howler and sacrifices high Dex for high Con/Legendary Battle Hardening (can get 80%+ damage soak with well randomized BURs), but it never got out of the planning stages. If that change went through, I might try this version instead:

Starting Stats (lvl 60 pre-demi@+14)
STR: 14 (62)
DEX: 16 (32)
CON: 16 (39)
INT: 12 (26)
WIS: 8 (19)
CHA: 8 (17)

Feat Swaps from build above:
Epic: Great Dex 2 -->Epic Damage Reduction
Harper Scout: Great Dex 3 -->Great Dex 2
Legendary: Great Str 7 -->Legendary Reflex; Great Dex 4, 5 --> Legendary Battle Hardening 1, 2
Paragon: Environmental Adaptivity 2,3 --> Legendary Battle Hardening 3,4

AB: 95
AC: 129 (w/gird)
Saves: 66(F)/66(R)/61(W)

[Vichya]

I think you should add the skills you took.

[tomaan]

Jun 12, 2013 14:24:19 GMT Vichya said:

I think you should add the skills you took.

Good idea and done.

[Vichya]

I would drop dex by 1 and take 2 more int. That way you can take craft armor. Then drop environmental adaptivity and take 3 dex instead. Adapativity isn't that great on a toon that doesn't want to get hit in the first place.