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Post by horbag on Jun 12, 2019 0:15:11 GMT
hiya
i have been to encumbria so often that i am realy wondering if it is possible to: 1) be allowed to open your PH there so you can put stuff in there temporarily 2) do not count the bound items like beaker, vestages, bound rods from the stygia shop
i end up putting things i need on runs in my bank and then forget them wile i am on the runs itself and it is realy irritating :/ i do understand that there has to be a limit but it is just no fun to end up in encumbria every time i port back after i try to hunt for something like a PH, or do a desert or so
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 0:33:12 GMT
Time to trim the fat. You’re carrying way too much useless stuff. Without question. I’ve never sent a toon there in my entire HG career. Even being a banker and picking up multiple runs worth of loot and going to town. Get rid of the garbage.
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Post by horbag on Jun 12, 2019 1:07:30 GMT
what garbage? my bag of rings? my 3 keys i am keeping on this toon or the bags, rods, bound items, weapons or a spare gear set for the level 40/50 stuff i use weekly... i trimmed down as much as i can, still at 100/150 without any loot and well, since i don't like autosell as i get more from the store i am over very fast
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Post by madzapper on Jun 12, 2019 16:34:46 GMT
what garbage? my bag of rings? my 3 keys i am keeping on this toon or the bags, rods, bound items, weapons or a spare gear set for the level 40/50 stuff i use weekly... i trimmed down as much as i can, still at 100/150 without any loot and well, since i don't like autosell as i get more from the store i am over very fast What I usually do on my loot mage which sounds much like your situation, is: 1. I log into a fresh server that I am not playing on and go to the bank, Wyrm, the armor shop, or the guild. 2. If I wind up in encumbria, I portal to the server that I am sitting in guild or otherwise.
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Post by woqued on Jun 12, 2019 17:04:02 GMT
As a fellow packrat/messmonster, few tips I found useful:
Rods/ror/statarti(if you use it)/epic spells first page, seldom used consumables in a weightless bag first page (and when you notice you never end up using, leave them at home or for soloing/lowman times) beaker + beakerpots + skull + dildos + statarti(if unused) last/second last page as you never need to check em in a hurry, weapons 2nd page (and 3rd if you have enough, but again leave the weapons you don't end up using at home after a time).
Lootbags, if you use them, should be on 1st and 2nd page as well (use the weightless 1 slot taking ones bought from Stygia, or on str characters just regular weighted 1 slot bags).
Everything between these pages: leave at home when you realize you are carrying too much stuff around. You don't need more swapper items than a couple buff items like minishunt armor, mantle buffer, conf/wb/levi/picker item swappers if you use them, and all of these are to be after weapons and put in a way where they aren't displaced from their usual spots when swapping, preferably so it doesn't mess up your weapon orders when swapping. Rest buff items generally are auged on ring slot items to minimize space eating - these buff rings should also preferably be on first page so you don't need to skim through them when you are clearing house.
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Post by horbag on Jun 12, 2019 19:33:25 GMT
what garbage? my bag of rings? my 3 keys i am keeping on this toon or the bags, rods, bound items, weapons or a spare gear set for the level 40/50 stuff i use weekly... i trimmed down as much as i can, still at 100/150 without any loot and well, since i don't like autosell as i get more from the store i am over very fast What I usually do on my loot mage which sounds much like your situation, is: 1. I log into a fresh server that I am not playing on and go to the bank, Wyrm, the armor shop, or the guild. 2. If I wind up in encumbria, I portal to the server that I am sitting in guild or otherwise. yea i might have to end up doing that, but when i do a run early morning i can assure you, i don't think to do this
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Post by Lil' Mikey (Msowby2) on Jun 13, 2019 4:35:48 GMT
I personally don't see an issue with P-hole being usable in non-pvp areas (or make encumbria an exception I guess?). With that being said it would be far looooow on the list of priorities due it being a "simple" QoL function, so either way I wouldn't except a change anytime soon Plan ahead and keep track of your inventory before heading to areas that port you there.
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Post by simpetar on Jun 13, 2019 7:02:56 GMT
I personally don't see an issue with P-hole being usable in non-pvp areas (or make encumbria an exception I guess?). With that being said it would be far looooow on the list of priorities due it being a "simple" QoL function, so either way I wouldn't except a change anytime soon Plan ahead and keep track of your inventory before heading to areas that port you there. Totally agree with this. P hole aside, auto-sell is your friend. It offers enough nuance to to filter what you (or your group) consider junk from good loot. Take your time to study the settings, find a combination you like and after that you can just mindlessly press keys. Quality of life tip: after you use any simtool command like "!autosell" and you wish to repeat it, just type two exclamation marks (!!). That will repeat the last command you used and save you some keystrokes
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Post by horbag on Jun 13, 2019 12:46:42 GMT
Totally agree with this. P hole aside, auto-sell is your friend. It offers enough nuance to to filter what you (or your group) consider junk from good loot. Take your time to study the settings, find a combination you like and after that you can just mindlessly press keys. problem with autosell is that you get less gold, i am still poor and need all the gold i can make, with one good desert run i make 80M, with autosell if i am lucky it is 30M that is quite the difference and if you do a few of them it realy adds up
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 13:17:48 GMT
Really poor? I suppose that's all in the eye of the beholder. Running abyss and limbo gives a decent chunk of change (which you do) and I know for a fact you got 1 bil in a single transaction. I would rather devs spent their time elsewhere then on something so minor.
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Post by woqued on Jun 13, 2019 14:24:51 GMT
Autosell giving a lot less gold is a real thing when you're trying to approach a specific monetary goal unless you're a soloboxer or duo endgame areas a lot and the others are willing to drop extra accounts from party when picking up gold and selling. Not having multiboxing capability also doesn't allow you to run to guild/armor shop without ending up in encumbria. Just more boxing privileges permeating. Anyways, moving on:
Most commons aren't worth very much anyway; 1. remove all commons and uncommons with added props from your loot tables; 2. keep auged items in even on commons (good augs can be sold to other players for billions and billions and billions, and certain augmenters such as +soak augs have a high selling price in shop) and urs (even ones without added props/augs on them) outside autosell. This way you get a lot of gold while minimizing trash collecting.
I think the actual autosell setting to achieve this would be 33 44, but I don't remember and cba to log in to doublecheck. Read the options and pick and choose. Selling commons to armorsmith is a waste of bagspace and time imo.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 14:46:47 GMT
I run 2 1, to never sell anything with an augmenter. And then 3 5 and 4 5 so anything rare and below is dusted unless it has augs.
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Post by horbag on Jun 13, 2019 21:13:46 GMT
well yea ray i indeed got 1 bill from a single transaction, but that went towards an elektrifyer so that is gone, they cost a lot, and once you do end game things on that toon you do need the rods and elektrifyers
i have a second account but i do not use it that often, and the best parts gear wise go straight into my banks (don;t like to be greedy at lootsplits) so i try to make gear/money with the things like oinos and such
augmenter wise, i don't know what they are worth, i have a few i think are nice like druid level 9 spell augmenter but i don't know if it realy is worht anything to anyone so it is just gathering dust for me atm
like i said prep, atm i try to avoid autosell, the difference in gold is huge and whatever has no augmenter on it i put one on it myself so it sells for more
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Post by woqued on Jun 14, 2019 18:12:53 GMT
The process of picking up commons to further augment them is arguably not worth the time/money as opposed to running faster and more, and focusing on the amount of quality drops. Since you apparently multibox or at least have a second account you can also somewhat safely solo things like Thids, where speed of attaining [more] set drops from there directly translates into more $$ than the auged commons would. Focusing on learning the skills to solo more lucrative content (like thids/ely) and dropping desert off your farmpool would translate into vastly more money overtime. But if it works for you then you do you. But then you should also pick up the skills to deal with the excessive number of loot swirling in your inventories However it may be, I wouldn't be opposed to undroppables not counting towards the 150 limit, in fact it makes perfect sense. I think it's a good idea, even if - as Mikey said - on priority list towards the bottom.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 18:26:48 GMT
Undroppable don’t count, autosell factors in appraise of the looter, one or both of these. Done and done. That’s the long term and low tier priority fix. As Woqued pointed out if you really want to increase your income learn to solo or low man better runs and invest in the toons to do that.
Whether it be farming P3 Abyss, Thids, Ely, or the king of them all, Aboleths. There’s literally zero penalty now that you can restore gear that’s fugued in return to Zerials to not invest the time to do the runs that pay more.
Aboleths is at a very conservative 5 billion gold a run, and that’s not counting MFs or TAs or S Tier Bur book drops.
While the item count and the autosell values do need to be fixed at some point, the real issue is the run choices.
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