Fizzle (Barbarian 18, Monk 18, Paladin 4)

[drunkenboastor]

Fizzle the Barbarian

Notes:
- The special thing this build does that is different from most others is it has a final spell resistance of 95. The highest spell penetration of any caster that I am aware of is 73. This character is immune to any spell that checks spell resistance. 
- The intention of this build is for a Barbarian control class that has much easier time gearing for Limbo.
-- An example, immune to any Implosion spell so not required to use Asmo belt. If do not have any Wraps of the Dark Prince, the Tragidore Belt is a good alternative source of Divine Power.
- This build does not use Shapestrong, I know many just "love" that feature.
- Barbarian 18 gives:
-- 3/- Physical resist, this does stack with other feats and items.
-- 5 Greater Rages per day, gives critical hit immunity for 96 seconds at 60, 126 seconds at 80.
--- UR belts, Tempest of Blood can recharge rages.
--- HGX can be used to set a timer for the duration of this.
- Monk 18 gives:
-- 60% bonus speed.
-- Empty Body gives 50% conceal, test chamber had more than 100 ticks.
--- Should get more conceal from hide skill and a Druid's Mass Camouflage spell, the Empty Body is a good backup if killed or debuffed.
-- Quivering Palm allows for 1 use per day of stripping the critical immunity off of any not boss mob.
- Paladin gives:
-- Divine Might, +10 damage for 60 seconds at 60, +15 damage for 90 seconds at 80.
--- This can be a challenging buff to maintain, setting up an HGX timer helps a lot with this.
-- Holy Sword Wands, are great for dealing with caster mobs that are buffed with spells like Energy Buffer, Premonition and Ethereal Visage.
-- Could go Blackguard instead of Paladin. Loose true fear immune and holy sword wands for poisons and get to be evil.
 
Pharlan
- The main reason for choosing this race is for it's base 75 SR at 60.
- Levitation is very useful for part 1 Limbo.

Barbarian 18, Monk 18, Paladin 4
- There are a number of alignment shifts required between Neutral Good and Lawful Good.

Ability	Half-Elf	Pharlan	@60 Naked	@80 + 16s
Strength	14	20	40	62
Dexterity	14	14	20	42
Constitution	08	08	12	34
Intelligence	14	14	14	36
Wisdom	14	18	18	40
Charisma	14	18	18	40

- Strength artifact used.
- Of the 20 ability points gained from 1-60 leveling, 14 go to strength, 6 to dexterity.
-- If choose to use a different artifact, will have to use 2 of the dexterity points for strength to keep the 40 base at 60.

Feats
Pre-Epic
- Level order: 1-12 Barbarian, 13-16 Paladin, 17-20 Monk.
- All ability increases to strength.
Pharlan - Divine Might, Great Strength 1/2
01 - Ba - Blooded - Requirement for LSA Tumble
03 - Ba - Weapon Focus - For Limbo, a slashing weapon tends to be better, but choice should be made on the best large sized weapons available.
06 - Ba - Greater Weapon Focus
09 - Ba - Improved Critical
12 - Ba - Power Attack
13 - Pa - Have to shift alignment to take Paladin Level.
15 - Pa - Toughness
17 - Mo - Reminder to start Monk levels.
18 - Mo - Great Claeve

Epic
- Level order: 21-26 Barbarian, 27-40 Monk.
- All ability increases to strength.
21 - Ba - Armor Skin, have to shift alignment to take Barbarian levels.
24 - Ba - Epic Weapon Focus
27 - Mo - Epic Prowess, have to change alignment for last time to take level.
30 - Mo - Overwhelming Critical
33 - Mo - Devastating Critical
36 - Mo - Improved Spell Resistance 1
39 - Mo - Improved Spell Resistance 2
40 - Mo - Reminder to maximize Concentration and Hide skills to 43.

Legendary
- Ability point increases at 42, 44, 46 and 48 take strength. At 50+ take dexterity. If do not use a strength artifact, ability increases at 50 and 52 should be used for strength instead of dexterity.
42 - LSA Tumble
45 - Legendary Weapon Focus
48 - Improved Spell Resistance 3
51 - Improved Spell Resistance 4
54 - Improved Spell Resistance 5
56 - Pandact of Darkest Secrets Spell Resistance, Improved Spell Resistance 6/7
57 - Improved Spell Resistance 8
60 - Improved Spell Resistance 9
- Without Pandact, will still be immune to most casters by level 60.

Paragon
63 - Paragon Weapon Focus
66 - Improved Spell Resistance 10
69 - Paragon Environmental Adaptivity 1
72 - Paragon Environmental Adaptivity 2
75 - Paragon Environmental Adaptivity 3
78 - Paragon Balance
- Limbo normal is 9 layers of penalties, the Adaptivity feats will help characters with few Abyssal wins.
- For characters with a lot of Abyssal wins, could shift the Paragon Balance feat to a lower level.
- With Improved Spell Resistance 10, will have a total of 95 SR.

Skills	@60	@80
Concentration	43	43
Craft Armor	63	63+15
Craft Weapon	63	63+15
Discipline	63	63
Hide	43	43
Listen	63	63+15
Parry	63	63+15
Pick Pocket	01	01
Spell Craft	01	01
Tumble	63	63

- Had 7 loose skill points at 60. Capped Tumble because there are Tumble checks in Limbo. The 1 point in SC is to see party casters spells cast during buff phase. The 1 point in pickpocket is most likely useless, but what are you going to do with 2 skill points?
- The at 80 skills:
-- The +15 to the skills is part of the 50 magic cap.
-- All the skills with the +15, also get +5 from Prell tags and +10 from x6 Demigod, which is part of the 50 cap.
-- Assuming Bard song of +20, should cap all the +15 skills at +50 without having to worry about getting bonuses to those skills from equipment.

Save	@60	@80
Fortitude	68	83
Reflex	65	80
Will	64	78

Armor Class	@60	@60 Total	@80	@80 Total
Base	10	10	10	10
Dodge	20	30	20	30
Deflection	18	48	20	50
Natural	18	66	18	68
Tumble	12	78	12	80
Armor Skin	02	80	02	82
Craft Armor	02	82	03	85
Robe +15	15	97	15	100
Dexterity	11	108	16	116
Wisdom	10	118	15	131
Monk 15	03	121	03	134

- Could use Strongheart for an extra 2 AC.
- Girding of the Faithful (Cleric Epic) would add 2 AC. Stolen Lifeforce (Druid Paragon spell) would add 2 AC.
- XR Robes/Bracers could add another 1 AC. XR amulet could add 1 AC if do not use Strongheart.

Attack Bonus	@60	@60 Total	@80	@80 Total
BAB	19	19	19	19
Epic	10	29	10	29
Legnedary	15	44	20	49
Magic	20	64	20	69
Feat	08	72	10	79
Strength	21	93	26	105
Craft Weapon	02	95	03	108

- Monk levels do give Improved Knock Down feat:
-- Attack Bonus is on the low side to have an effective knockdown ability, it is free to spam every 6 seconds. Have no other swift action options.

[Deleted]

Do you have any damage parses for this build?

[hackenslay]

Pharlan doesn't have SR according to subrace chart:

Pharlan (BUR) +4 * * * +4 +4 W/T C/P Divine Might, Great Strength I+II, FC: Clr/Pal

Can we get that thread updated? I have quite a few Pharlan toons and overlooked this.

[sabregirl]

Subrace chart on the wiki? That can be edited by anyone.

The one on the forums is normally the most correct and it lists:

"Pharlan" (secret Beyond UltraRare; adds wings and tail)
- FCs: Cleric, Paladin
- STR +4, WIS +4, CHA +4, free feats: Great Strength I, Great Strength II, Divine Might, able to walk on quicksand, base SR 15 +1/lvl

-S

[chainlink]

Wiki has been updated with sr since 23rd of March 2010 by Werehound so not sure where you're missing that from?
I did post an insane SR Monk build years ago but I never tested it out in actual play, whats the maximum SR drop you've come across based on mobs casting or other effects they have?

[Matt]

Interesting build, nice to see something different.

[Methes]

Why going for barbarian CC without using any of its advanced bonuses?
By going 36 Monk/4pal you would:
Lose 3/- physical DR
Lose 4 Str + 4 Con
Lose 3 AB (because of BAB 16)

Gain 76% conceal from Empty Body
With Spell Resist still get 95 SR which can be not lowered by Mord unlike subrace SR
Be faster
Have 4 higher AC from Monk
Get regen from Wholeness of Body + better toggleable crit imm
Extra survivability feat from Monk 20
Immunity to all mind effects from Monk 20
Gain extra 3 feats from Monk epic levels
Can use completely different race (no need for SR, levi from Monk, better stat distribution for what you need, use bonus feats for str to alleviate loss from no barbarian CC, lower wis and gain CON cause higher AC)

I mean what am I not getting?
Heck you could even add Fighter to the mix and get weapon spec for higher damage.

[drunkenboastor]

For opponent SR dropping, I am unaware of any special SR drop outside of the mord, breach, dispel and nature's balance. If your SR is lowered by those means, a simple restore removes the drop.

The Barbarian control class was a requirement for the build. I did not choose it, but I thought the results were interesting. Some players survival issues in Limbo are based upon trying to cover the needed spell immunity. A build which does not have to gear to be immune to those spells, should be able to survive better and in the end be more able to contribute.

I did look at 15/15/10 fighter and 16/16/8 fighter. The 20% XP penalty was not an influence to the final build. The current build ends up with better attack bonus and saves. Survival is most in mind for this build.

[hackenslay]

I copied that line directly from the first page of the Sub-Race chart in the Drunken Monk. It still doesn't mention SR.

I guess you're looking at it in a different place on the forums, and I didn't realize it was even on the wiki.

Where on the forums is it? I need to update my link.

[sabregirl]

Jan 8, 2020 22:10:12 GMT hackenslay said:

I copied that line directly from the first page of the Sub-Race chart in the Drunken Monk. It still doesn't mention SR.

I guess you're looking at it in a different place on the forums, and I didn't realize it was even on the wiki.

Where on the forums is it? I need to update my link.

I forgot that chart even existed. This is what we try to keep current.

highergroundpoa.proboards.com/thread/6671/subrace-information

[hackenslay]

Thanks Sabre, that's much more detailed. The Drunken Monk one is what I've been using for over 10 years...

[chirality]

Jan 8, 2020 21:48:16 GMT drunkenboastor said:

The Barbarian control class was a requirement for the build. I did not choose it, but I thought the results were interesting.

it's a reinc placeholder or smth?