Advice Request - Repurpose Undying Staff Monk

[magecat]

I have an almost L45 Undying Strength Staff Monk in the vault.

I do not have Zenythri.

I have the following BURs:
Anarch
Furchin
Half-Fiend
Rilmani
Salamander
Undying

No XRs

I am looking for advice on repurposing the character. Any Help appreciated.

[Deleted]

What’s the class combination?

[magecat]

Currently, Pure monk

[Deleted]

Adopt the following build to one of the subraces you have is probably your best bet:

highergroundpoa.proboards.com/thread/25081/endgame-monk-monk31-4ftr-5wm

And that would ultimately let you convert this character to a fighter later if desired.

[woqued]

Undying is fine sub, some variant of 31/4/5 or 30/5/5 with varying amounts of fighter/harper/weapon master probably serves you well, saves will be easy to pick up as Undying, dex/wis/str values will be good as Elf. As it stands, 2h martial weapon is your best bet, any of 18-20x2, 19-20x3, 20x4. Exotic options also work if you have more of those available, but you'd probably rather not use that 1 feat on a sub that grants no enabler feats.

Can go monk weapons for style points and nostalgy too, but feat strain becomes immense and might opt to go for less monk levels than 30 and instead get more fighter and wm7 levels to fit both dual wield and weapon master feats in. Could even end up being ahead of the curve later if/when 2h eventually gets toned down. Edit: this level spread would probably be 25m/7wm/8ftr or 21m/7wm/12 ftr, at the expense of some concealment for more damage. 

[magecat]

Figured out the character is an adaptation of this:

highergroundpoa.proboards.com/thread/21302/bugga-boo-pure-monk

[magecat]

woqued - Just to be certain, you're looking at a damage dealer?

I mucked around a bit and got dual wield and Dev Crit through a Ranger9/Weapon Master7 splash, but I am not sure that was what you were thinking to accomplish.

[woqued]

Same goal as that ranger splash, only on fighter version you get the weapon spec line, and on a rngr 9 wm7 you don't get to take monk 25 as you would on 8ftr7wm which is a epic free feat so you end up drawing the shorter stick overall, but I didn't type the build down just eyeballed the classes and what they get. Ranger doesn't really get anything over fighter, if you went fighter and ignored weapon spec you get more feats as well.

[chainlink]

Salamander would work as it gets two WM feats and the stats are in the right direction, dual wield vs 2h is a fail (at least unless 2h gets nerfed) due to the significant damage output decrease and you won't get Ranger ac boost so there really is no benefit in using this class in that build.
I've made variants of the End Game Monk with several different races and all are effective with minor tweaking, Halfling/Salamander would be quite similar to the original but you would need to use a large weapon and buff starting Dexterity a bit.

[woqued]

It's not like you can't make dual wield work or dual weapons, but the problem is that dual wield also requires twice as many useful weapons with similar types and double the buffing. It's a nightmare - on top of lesser performance (less dmg, more kb, lower ab) for higher cost

... But you might still have a collection of onehanded weapons, monk weapons etc and it's not like you're useless going that way. That amount of attacks with WM crits (even with the atrocious monk weapon crit ranges) is a respectable damage.

[magecat]

I appreciate the input, folks. Much to think about.