The Auction Chest prices are bugged. I first noticed it the other day on the XR races, but the Ring-bound Guecubu shows for 1100100101 in the UI, but then when attempting to bid and on the market page it's actually over 1.5bn.
For added context, as there was a now-deleted post questioning this, I saw this ring at 995100100 or something close to that yesterday, and put in a max bid of 1.5bn, so I know for sure that the current bid was 1.5bn as of yesterday. I was confsued seeing it back at 1.1bn today, so i put in the same 1.5bn bid again and was rejected because the price shown is incorrect, and the bid is already 1gp over my 1.5bn bid.
None of that establishes a bug, as I understand it - though it appears you're confusing max and current bid. Putting in a max bid of 1.5B on a ring at 995100100 would not up current bid to 1.5, only max bid. If you then bid 1.5 again the next day it'd also be rejected if you still had max bid. The 1.1 Billion price would then represent someone else's max bid. Without knowing when the price shown of 1.5 and 1 gp was in relation to the screenie...yeah.
Guys, you can't expect us to invest hours in bughunting if you can't spend enough time to lay out the problem clearly. Nor do you want us to, ultimately, give the small amount of dev time we have to keep pushing Mechanus and other updates.
Funky, the market page was refreshed 5 seconds before the screenshot was taken. I have walked in 1 minute before, and no one else had been in the shop.
The Market Page says the current bid is 1,500,500,501, which is 1gp above my max bid from yesterday.
The auction chest states that the current max bid is 1,100,100,101.
That's a 400MM gp difference between the current bid shown on the market page, and the current bid shown on the auction chest.
As far as I know, both of these numbers are the current bid, not a max bid, and they should always match, especially when the bid that pushed the current bid up was made yesterday. That accounts for a cron or some sort of delayed sync.
Post by Lil' Mikey (Msowby2) on Nov 18, 2020 21:02:35 GMT
This is not a bug. It will never show you how much the maximum bid is -unless- you bid higher than it. You will need to bid higher then 5% of the maximum bid places, which again it won't tell you until you reach that threshold. Been that way forever.
This IS a bug. it's not raising the price to 100100101. it still says 1 in the chest. if my bid 100100100 is too low, then shouldnt the price in the chest show at least 95000000 or so for the 5% high requirement?
The items in the chest should reflect the CURRENT bid on the item. Not the max. The current bid is not updating. If the max bid is 1 billion. The current bid is 100 million, and I bid 500M. The current bid bumps to 500M and it should say on the item, 500M. It’s not updating like it should. The max bid is not apart of this. I hear that you’re saying but isn’t a factor here.
There's no bug. This is the functionality of the auction and has been for a decade+, as mikey mentioned above.
People don't seem to read the actual info and don't grasp the operation of the system. Nearly 10 years ago this discussion was explained succinctly, but here's a relevant post, in which a player describes the "original" auction mechanism--prone to abuse, and changed--and the "current" functionality, which persists to this day.
A while back you just put your bid in and that is what the current bid was. If you purchased it, that is what the seller would get. There were problems with people going in at the last minute before the auction closed and bidding current bid +1 and winning the item. This caused people that couldn't camp the auction to get upset because they bid what they thought the item would sell for and would have paid more if they expected a higher sell price.
Going to eBay style bidding changed auction buying from a guessing game where the last guess won to something that more closely provides a true value to the item.
Chirality you’re missing it too. The max bid is not the issue here. Reference the screenshot in one of the earlier posts. The text on the item says the current bid is 1.1B even though as shown, he’s attempted to place a bid of 1.5B. Clearly even the current bid is much higher than 1.1B but that isn’t reflecting on the item.
Normally, if an item is in the auction chest with a MAX of let’s say 1 billion. No one knows what this max is unless that specific person has the max bid. Only one person can have this at a time. This value not being known by anyone except the one who actually has this bid is completely acceptable.
The current bid on this item may only be 200M, even if the max is 1 billion. So when you go to the auction chest and you mouse over the item, it will tell you 200M “Insert item name”. That would suggest to anyone viewing that they need to bid 200M +5% to take control. When they play this bid, they’re then informed that their bid isn’t high enough to beat the max bid. The current price then goes up to the bid placed.
Now the text on the item when viewed will read the new current bid. This will continue to adjust up, as bids are received. If I come in and place a max bid of 2 billion. The text on the item would reflect 1,000,000,001 because it’s 1GP higher than the current max bid. As players bid toward that new max the item name will again adjust reflecting the TRUE current bid.
All of the issues described are with the current bid of the item not updating. Players are placing bids which are higher than the current bid +5%, regardless of whether or not this bid beats a max bid, it will / should / mostly does adjust the current price. Sometimes, like in the screenshot, that price is not changing. That is the problem. That price isn’t updating reflecting the true current bid.
Because that isn’t updating it creates problems. The reality is you just throw more money at it anyway. For price conscious players they may want to know exactly what is needed. They could easily just add 50M over and over til they got it / hit their max threshold. Normally all of that is not needed because the item name reflects usually reflects the current price.
The bug is that the current price isn’t always consistently updating. TJs verbiage got mixed up I think creating the confusion.
I'd encourage anyone who thinks this isnt a bug to log in and go look at the behavior themselves for the item in my most recent screenshot, and then tell me if you think its a bug or not. It's 100% a change in behavior from standard operating procedure that has been in place for years now, as y'all have mentioned.
You used a different item than the one i screenshotted. it doesn't happen to every item.
Hopefully this is more clear, using the same evidence you posted, and i posted the last time this came up. Auction chest says current price on transmundane ward is 1gp. Market listing says it is 500500501. Why does the in game shown price differ from the market listing, with zero bidding activity done by me?
If you're going to insist on continuing to post without reading what I've written or looking at the evidence I've provided for the items in question, please save both of our time.