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Post by dragonlance007 on Sept 28, 2006 16:35:23 GMT
Well these minor things always get tough. It's my understanding that hardcore players will put [HC] in their name and the guild supports a minor in hardcore play. So, what about [EO] as a symbol for symetry? Then if you make a hardcore character you would have a name in the form like: [HC] Dragon Dog [EO] Just an idea, or fuel for thought. I thought about that too and would love to do it, but I don't know if using the [ ] symbols will mess with any of the scripts. I imagine they would because they are used for test characters and will be used for HC characters and God knows what else. I will wait to hear from Funky on this tho... -DragonLance_007
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Post by phalthallus on Sept 28, 2006 16:48:16 GMT
Funky has said a few times that we should stay away from [HC] (for various reasons), so I was planning on doing something like Gilgallad Trueheart the Hardcore {EO} or summat. Then nobody has to ask what [HC] means too.
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Post by reelroleplayer on Sept 28, 2006 17:26:31 GMT
After reading the rest of discussion, I agree {EtO} doesn't make sense. {EO} avoids all of the pitfalls that we're concerned about, so that's my (official!?) vote.
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Post by bkelowna on Sept 28, 2006 17:41:13 GMT
I thought funky warned that if you used [HC] in the name that you would be subjected to any hardcore scripts he added.
So, note that is [HC] with square brackets , so my suggestion was [EO] with square brackets.
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Post by Valthonis The Exile on Sept 28, 2006 17:54:20 GMT
bkelowna, phalthallus and my brother ...you all make good points. I was not aware that a hardcore toon would have the [HC] symbol BEFORE their name, I guess I always assumed it would be after it. Are you sure? If that is the case then these [ ] shouldnt be used after the name. [ ] are scripted to cause the server to react in a certain way. [Test] allows a test toon to be made which ports it to a special mini module on that server, and [HC] will be for hardcore toons and however the server will react to them. bkelowna has the right idea tho. Assuming bkelowna is right...this is how they could look for both sects.
Valthonis The Exile {EO} [HC] Valthonis The Exile {EO}
I can live with this.
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Post by FunkySwerve on Sept 28, 2006 18:06:34 GMT
If that is the case then these [ ] shouldnt be used after the name. [ ] are scripted to cause the server to react in a certain way. [Test] allows a test toon to be made which ports it to a special mini module on that server, and [HC] will be for hardcore toons and however the server will react to them. That just isn't the case. [ ] might cause issues with the database, but it seems unlikely, so it should be fine. The [HC] designator will most likely be addable anywhere in the name. Funky
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Post by phalthallus on Sept 28, 2006 18:47:33 GMT
I don't think it matters if the [HC] comes before, after, or in the middle of the name. But it would probably just make sense to be consistent with one another. Putting it first does make it more obvious, as long names are cut off of the Player screen; but that also brings up the point that the [EO] or {EO} would be missing from this screen. So in that regard, maybe it doesn't matter. It could even come after the {EO}.
And yes, you're right, that using [HC] will make you subject to his hardcore rules, if/once implemented. Not necessarily a problem, unless we decide we want EO hardcore to be in any way slightly different from HG hardcore (for instance, give 1 item to new HC players). That's the only reason I would suggest against using [HC] in a guild like this. You could do it for personal toons, but in this case, it may not be desirable. Maybe we won't WANT the extra xp (if Funky goes that route) - which of course might not make sense to some, but some people might consider that not truly hard core.
I just think that until we know what the rules are, and if we agree with all of them, we should avoid [HC] in our names. Just my 2c though.
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Post by reelroleplayer on Sept 28, 2006 18:59:14 GMT
Would {HCEO} be too cumbersome? Or {EOHC}? Or too cryptic?
{EOHC} for hardcore, {EO} for non-hc? Both at the beginning, so guild-tag and HC designation aren't cutoff?
Just some thoughts.
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Post by dragonlance007 on Sept 28, 2006 19:40:47 GMT
If that is the case then these [ ] shouldnt be used after the name. [ ] are scripted to cause the server to react in a certain way. [Test] allows a test toon to be made which ports it to a special mini module on that server, and [HC] will be for hardcore toons and however the server will react to them. That just isn't the case. [ ] might cause issues with the database, but it seems unlikely, so it should be fine. The [HC] designator will most likely be addable anywhere in the name. Funky Ok, Funky says square brackets should be good to go. I say we go square for the symmetry. If you want to be subject to the future HC scripts.[HC] Raistlin Majere [EO] or if you have a very long name then use both at the begining[HC] [EO] The Wondering Soul Hungery Spirit of Fistandantilus And if you dont want to be subject to the servers HC rules then I agree with Phalthallus, use something like this.Kaz the Hardcore [EO] Comments? Concerns? Suggestions? Opinions? -DragonLance_007
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Post by reelroleplayer on Sept 28, 2006 19:58:09 GMT
That just isn't the case. [ ] might cause issues with the database, but it seems unlikely, so it should be fine. The [HC] designator will most likely be addable anywhere in the name. Funky Ok, Funky says square brackets should be good to go. I say we go square for the symmetry. If you want to be subject to the future HC scripts.[HC] Raistlin Majere [EO] or if you have a very long name then use both at the begining[HC] [EO] The Wondering Soul Hungery Spirit of Fistandantilus And if you dont want to be subject to the servers HC rules then I agree with Phalthallus, use something like this.Kaz the Hardcore [EO] Comments? Concerns? Suggestions? Opinions? -DragonLance_007 I second this, if such a thing were necessary. Way to make a command decision, DL--very well put. Cheers for what seems to be shaping up to be a very active guild--I'm excited to be a part of this. Now, I'm off to make my first HG fighter tank, [HC] Badaxe [EO] . Rar!
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Post by versengeteriks on Sept 28, 2006 21:00:16 GMT
symbolism. Ive put a lot of thought in to this so bear with me. Personally i would prefer to stay away from any real life religeous sybolism. There fore any form of cross eight pointed star etc including "Xx+Tt" Symbols gain meaning through use and deed of the wearer. not by mere being. which is why people have emotional response to real life holy sybols, flags, crests etc. this is because the symbols represent someone, something, a time, a place, a group that has a memory attachment to it. So what we choose now will be important. But do not think that the symbol will make itself or us look good. E.g the swastika was a religeous symbol of good before the Nazis got to it. Now due to the Nazis Mis deeds (understatement I know) it is seen more commonly to represent bad people and deeds. there fore we shouold try to choose something that represents either us or our ideals. The duality of the Order: one side of us wanting to help all newcomers and welcome them to the world. The other a Devout and proud warrior caste who refuse all offers of help from anyone not of their caste system "Hardcore". at first look it would seem that the ying yang would be sufficient, but again it would involve alt codes, and it is already an accepted holy symbol in real life. Infinite, Eternal, have been shown as a symbol which has no end or beginning for a long time "O", "8". and the word Order simply put begins with an O. so the possiblity is raised of having: - O - plain and simple, showing both the Eternal and the Order of our name.
- OO - as above but with 2 symbols. showing two distinct parts of our order Hardcore and care giver.
- 8 - as above, also showing the duality of our order. containing both symbols for eternity "O and 8". With "8" also being THE lucky number in china. Also showing one O above another, showing our persuit of higher self purpose, and our role as caregivers, as "O" is also the symbol used as a Halo and angelic beings. (although bringing us back to real life beleifs, Angels are something most of us have encountered within D+d before"
And yes, people will ask "why do you guys have an Eight in your names for?" which is when we can explain that it is in fact Not an 8. So due only to my research, and no real personal preference as the symbol means little to me right now. my suggestion would be {8} or [8] I suspect u guys can come up with something equally good. Cos it could come across as corny. plus u guys seem quite set on {EO} or similar. Which i will go for if it is what the majority want. But i would like our Moniker to actually mean something, rather than just Spelling out our name. trix
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Post by versengeteriks on Sept 28, 2006 21:10:24 GMT
Oh yeah, Keep any cash left over from my donation, we can use it to buy some of those "Gift Bags" that have cleverly been invented by our brethren above.
Next, I have several toons at my disposal. Most notably Mena 52lvl Pixie wizzy. Deep 43lvl Minotaur Barb, Bard, RDD. I have a few other immos, but those are two im not deleting and will be keeping for the guild. And since i prefer to spend most of my time playing to the pre LL levels, they are already set up to be great search and rescue toons for our Order!
Meet you in game. trix
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Post by dragonlance007 on Sept 28, 2006 21:40:43 GMT
Very well thought out Trix! I love the deep thought and raw emotion in that post.
But I think what we need for our character names is a mark or a "cool" abbreviation of our guild name, not a symbol.
I am not saying that our guild should not have a symbol. By all means I think it should, but that should be something created in an art program, where some1 can make it look very nice and add all sorts of meaningful stuff to it.
Then we could post that symbol here in our future guild section or even crop it into our HG guild screen shots and post them in the drunken monk for all to behold.
Again, I love your passion for this, but I think it may be a little misplaced. I am for a simple, symmetrical, classic, guild abbreviation for our character names. With that said, I am still in favor of my previous post.
Also again, I think we should elaborate on a totally separate, well done, stylish, meaningful, guild symbol.
-DragonLance-007
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Post by Valthonis The Exile on Sept 28, 2006 22:49:12 GMT
Now that we know the [EO] will not cause any issues with the server, I am all for using that as our symbol. I am in agreement with bkelowna. The symmetry of the two symbols looks great and is functional.
Trix, I wanted to commend you on the thought and passion that went into your previous reply. It's a awesome feeling to know that our guild will be full of active, intellectual players who share our same vision.
I cant wait to get a guild party togather!
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Post by versengeteriks on Sept 28, 2006 23:02:50 GMT
Np, Im good with [EO]. was just trying to come up with some other options.
:-) trix
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