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Post by bubb on Oct 28, 2006 14:46:08 GMT
Not every character named McFob is in the McFob guild. We expect the non guild mcfobs will not be included as targets or participants in whatever guild battles or guild pp takes place.
Thank you,
yers,
Bubb
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Post by infamy on Oct 28, 2006 19:35:29 GMT
I would like to take a second to extent Bubb's message. We had a blast last night PVPing Fusa and Co., and can't wait for the next opportunity >  . The good thing is that we have taken more time to pine over the guild/server rules to decide where we will stand as a group in the HG Guild system. Here are the conclusions we came to: Some will be removing there HG Guild tokens as a way to enjoy the server without having to potentially engage in PvP at an unwanted time. If they do decide they wish PvP, you will find they will show up on the guild token list, found by using the guild tokens special function. The players that have removed the tokens have not left the McFobs, they just don't want to have to deal with PvP at the moment. From the people I have met around here, I don't see this issue being a problem, we just wanted to make sure that those players aren't disturbed. We also understand that this does not exclude these non-token members from PP, which brings me to the next issue. Pickpocketing. Rule 3 under the pickpocketing section states the following: 3. If the pickpocketing is frequent enough to interfere with your victim's enjoyment of the server, you must leave that person alone. The McFob family has many players spread across different servers, not just HG. Based on Conversations held on TeamSpeak, we all agree that we do not enjoy pickpocketing. Last night in the PvP, we had some good stuff PP from us, such as Yukio book, Quantary union, Fallen Angel, etc. As many know, these things are very tough to find, and we wouldn't be able to get what we have if it were for our members constantly working to obtain them. So I will state the following: We[Read: The McFobs] have been pickpocketted too much, and it has interfered with the enjoyment of HG, and the PvP we were engaged in.This post has been duplicated at McFob.com, and if there are any McFobs that still wish to engage in PP, they will respond here within the next few days. That said, only the NPCs of HG have to worry about PP from McFobs. If there are incidents of McFobs PPing someone, please inform Bubb or myself, and we will be sure to sort the situation out ASAP. My hope is that people understand our position, and if there are any questions, please feel free to post. That said, I look forward to PvP action from the many other guilds here. Cheers, Infamy |
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Post by tiredofmcfobs on Oct 30, 2006 2:46:50 GMT
Belillin2 and Jam dorser12, both Mcfobs are equally involved in PP of lowbies for fun.I plan on making an uber PPer to harass and haggle every Mcfob i see from now until you all leave. Punishment for letting your guildies run wild. Every toon with Mcfob in the name beware of my uber PP skills!if we want Mcfobs gone, well have to join and take action!
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Post by Grudge on Oct 30, 2006 2:57:35 GMT
Belillin2 and Jam dorser12, both Mcfobs are equally involved in PP of lowbies for fun.I plan on making an uber PPer to harass and haggle every Mcfob i see from now until you all leave. Punishment for letting your guildies run wild. Every toon with Mcfob in the name beware of my uber PP skills!if we want Mcfobs gone, well have to join and take action! This reminds me of those times when im shopping and see a small child drop where he is standing and scream because he diddnt get something he wanted. I'd say that if this is your plan, you are in for a big supprise. ~grudge |
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Post by whodat1 on Oct 30, 2006 3:40:53 GMT
Isn't it a coincidence that this person appeared right as funky allegedly "went to go hiking"? {DUM DUM DUMMMMMMM} Thought you could fool us, eh Mr. Swerve?
If I happened to not uncover a DM conspiracy, its a simple process to compare the IP logged here to the HG server logs, "tiredofmcfobs". So my suggestion is to apologize, go away, and hope that no one gives enough of a crap to penalize you for not following forum rules.
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Post by shadowspawn on Oct 30, 2006 4:12:08 GMT
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Post by infamy on Oct 30, 2006 11:29:06 GMT
Tired,
Again, if there is an issue, approach us about it, or better yet, let me know. You know not one thing about the McFobs, but if you need help, I would be happy to lend a hand.
There is no "Leader" of the McFobs. As I have said before, we are a bunch of people who like to party together. Turns out there are about 40 McFobs that like to party together.
I think the issue comes when you have a number of people you haven't met before, and the instant reaction you have if one makes a mistake is to label them as some sort of "retard".
Jam Dorser and Bellini are two new additions to the McFobs since we began to play here. They have both come a long way, and I am proud to be able to hang out with both. But alas, you have never met them, so how would you know? Right..
We have all come across these things, but the key here is that you have to move on. Try getting to know a player or two. Believe me, it won't hurt that much.
-Infamy
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Post by archmage on Oct 30, 2006 12:03:12 GMT
Belillin2 and Jam dorser12, both Mcfobs are equally involved in PP of lowbies for fun.I plan on making an uber PPer to harass and haggle every Mcfob i see from now until you all leave. Punishment for letting your guildies run wild. Every toon with Mcfob in the name beware of my uber PP skills!if we want Mcfobs gone, well have to join and take action! This would be a bad idea and would result in punishment for you. On the other hand, if people dont want to be associated with, and included in guild activities, I would highly discourage using a guild tag as your character's last name. I know I consider every McFob to be associated with the guild. Why a guild would let someone use their tag that wasnt a member really baffles me. I would recommend that the McFobs start taking the guild rules into account before adding future members. |
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Post by MilesAtma on Oct 30, 2006 12:09:49 GMT
I have read several posts as of late and thought id offer my two cents in hopes to end the madness. I'm not a saint by any means and I have said some pretty silly things at times about people without knowing all of the facts, though most know me to be a fairly rational person and I try to play it down the middle for the most part. Since for the most part the means of communication is written and inflection and therefore loads of meaning can be lost in the written word I fell that whoever is fueding might want to make the extra effort to make things right. The situation as I understand it is that someone made a mistake and occupied an area already occupied. No big deal at that point. Its when the person made rude remarks to veteran players that all the problems really began. Sort of the straw that broke the camel's back. Then the situation got compunded with all of the following threads and such. Now it has gotten completely out of hand and i think for no real meaningful reason. IMO it would be a good idea for whoever was involved to just apologize, I really think its that simple. I know most of the people involved and they are not the type of people that hold grudges, though, they are not the type of people that allow new players to break the rules without informing them of their transgression. Both sides have vallid points and there is no use to argue over those points any longer. It will just come down to who can legally annoy the other side for the longest time. Im quite sure that the veterans involved did not make up the incident nor did they over react. I have known their characters for quite some time and I have had altercations with a couple of them myself, yet when i offered the olive branch the very next day they were willing to listen and squashed our problem. I think a big part of the problem here is an issue of respect, and there are well-respected veteran players involved whose character is widely known. It not a conspiracy of dms against the mcfobs, thats not how hg operates. I have been in arguments with several powers that be, but they never overreacted or took it personally and i never suffered repercussions for my disagreements. That being said i also never cursed them out. I wrote this little message just to end the madness and i hope it doesnt fall on deaf ears. Egos shouldnt stop people from enjoying a really nice playing experience. No one involved judges all mcfobs to be sure. I know many of you to be great players and rational, polite people online anyway |
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Post by infamy on Oct 30, 2006 13:43:22 GMT
Archmage, I think the reason that there are McFobs that use the tag in there name but may not carry a guild token is confusing until you consider that we spread across a few different servers. We did not come to HG and make up the McFobs, we were long before. So when we pass out guild tokens here, we are saying that we want to be involved in the PvP action. That said, not every McFob (though it is rare) enjoys being part of the PvP system here, so you find that not all have tokens. The main thing is that we don't force our members to do anything they might not want to do.
Miles, you have always been level headed, and a great guy to party with. You are correct is saying a lot of meaning is lost in words. Since I have just blown a PSU and two HDDs, I won't be on for a while, but I will be finding Lycoris soon.
Cheers,
Infamy
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Post by infamy on Nov 1, 2006 23:05:23 GMT
I would like to take a second to extent Bubb's message. We had a blast last night PVPing Fusa and Co., and can't wait for the next opportunity > . The good thing is that we have taken more time to pine over the guild/server rules to decide where we will stand as a group in the HG Guild system. Here are the conclusions we came to: Some will be removing there HG Guild tokens as a way to enjoy the server without having to potentially engage in PvP at an unwanted time. If they do decide they wish PvP, you will find they will show up on the guild token list, found by using the guild tokens special function. The players that have removed the tokens have not left the McFobs, they just don't want to have to deal with PvP at the moment. From the people I have met around here, I don't see this issue being a problem, we just wanted to make sure that those players aren't disturbed. We also understand that this does not exclude these non-token members from PP, which brings me to the next issue. Pickpocketing. Rule 3 under the pickpocketing section states the following: 3. If the pickpocketing is frequent enough to interfere with your victim's enjoyment of the server, you must leave that person alone. The McFob family has many players spread across different servers, not just HG. Based on Conversations held on TeamSpeak, we all agree that we do not enjoy pickpocketing. Last night in the PvP, we had some good stuff PP from us, such as Yukio book, Quantary union, Fallen Angel, etc. As many know, these things are very tough to find, and we wouldn't be able to get what we have if it were for our members constantly working to obtain them. So I will state the following: We[Read: The McFobs] have been pickpocketted too much, and it has interfered with the enjoyment of HG, and the PvP we were engaged in.This post has been duplicated at McFob.com, and if there are any McFobs that still wish to engage in PP, they will respond here within the next few days. That said, only the NPCs of HG have to worry about PP from McFobs. If there are incidents of McFobs PPing someone, please inform Bubb or myself, and we will be sure to sort the situation out ASAP. My hope is that people understand our position, and if there are any questions, please feel free to post. That said, I look forward to PvP action from the many other guilds here. Cheers, Infamy Two more PP incidents occurred today. One while I have helping some new guys, and a second later when two mcfobs were sparring in the arena. Both incidents by Hanzo (Sp29), guild Ahala. He is intentionally trying to grief us, and I need DM help to put a stop to it. Thanks, Infamy |
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Post by infamy on Nov 2, 2006 5:32:10 GMT
"What do you expect to accomplish by PPing us?"
It is a simple, honest question. Why not answer it?
If you don't like me bringing you tactics to light, I suggest you stop using them.
-Infamy
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Post by Breña on Nov 2, 2006 8:41:41 GMT
Get a room you two.
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Post by mubu on Nov 2, 2006 18:50:27 GMT
Tool said it best about all this ranting....
"Foot in mouth and head up ass so what you talking about?
Difficult to dance around this one, until you pull it out...."
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. The good thing is that we have taken more time to pine over the guild/server rules to decide where we will stand as a group in the HG Guild system. 
