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Post by fraglord85 on May 17, 2008 21:11:20 GMT
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Post by fraglord85 on May 19, 2008 21:15:56 GMT
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Post by mrslayer on May 19, 2008 21:18:16 GMT
Why not take your level 60 illy runner into hells?
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Post by stonewarrior on May 19, 2008 21:50:21 GMT
Or try for another subrace? There are very few Half-Fiends listed and a lot of folks lookign for them. have you searched this forum? The last time I did I only saw 1 listed. On top of that I have only seen 1 drop in the last 2 months...or about 60 Hell runs.
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Post by KnightErrant on May 19, 2008 22:00:21 GMT
Played for 6 months before I ever got a BUR subbie....never even seen a HF book drop, can't just jump on a Thids run and get a shot at one, it has to drop....and you have to roll high etc.....
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Post by chainlink on May 19, 2008 22:30:40 GMT
You need to understand SoS are useful but farming something a couple of demis can get without pain or risk is not going to guarantee you a BUR subby in exchange. Play in Hells partys more and the chance of getting what you want will increase as time goes by, I had the choice of a HF book or a ring the other day and I took the ring, I've had HF loaded on one of my accounts for ages and haven't built anything with it. I've seen every single book drop multiple times but just because I failed to win most of them did not make me feel like giving up even when I was desperately after the latest races and watching them get picked before my go.
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Post by fraglord85 on May 20, 2008 7:53:32 GMT
Why not take your level 60 illy runner into hells? its currently 58 and dont think hes ready for hells gear setup = Armor: Robes of Anediros Hawklight Right hand: DB assassin dagger Left Hand: Gleaming Glint Belt: Lamentation's Call Amulet: Ygrette's Ephemeral Locket Boots: Aasagart's Aversion Cloak: Ectoplasmic Weave Bracer: Clasps of the Forewarned helm: titan's top Lycan Sub -10% pierce 134 AC 685 HP Fortitude 63 Reflex 75 Will 59 with just gear and no buffs
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Post by zerragon on May 20, 2008 8:12:11 GMT
Reading the title: Re: Quiting this game till i get my hands on HF su, how on earth are you getting a HF book when quitting ? , after spamming the "10 succors for HF book" for weeks with "fake updates" you should perhaps take the hint, and actually make one of the many excellent open race/secret race/ UR race builds that are fully playable in Hells, then go there and earn one yourself.
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Post by chainlink on May 20, 2008 8:58:16 GMT
Why not take your level 60 illy runner into hells? its currently 58 and dont think hes ready for hells gear setup = Armor: Robes of Anediros Hawklight Right hand: DB assassin dagger Left Hand: Gleaming Glint Belt: Lamentation's Call Amulet: Ygrette's Ephemeral Locket Boots: Aasagart's Aversion Cloak: Ectoplasmic Weave Bracer: Clasps of the Forewarned helm: titan's top Lycan Sub -10% pierce 134 AC 685 HP Fortitude 63 Reflex 75 Will 59 with just gear and no buffs And the problem with that build is what exactly? Looks fine to me, ok you could be a few points better off in all areas but its hardly likely to be a deal breaker assuming you either followed a decent build template or have some idea of how to create a decent build yourself. See my demi list below, that 5x assassin is a One-Eyed build.
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Post by tyranlthixis on May 20, 2008 9:25:49 GMT
I took a lycan rogue to Maladomini using a build very similar to Kobold's Cuddly Little Scoundrel, but with more dex and no self conceal. I had no problems whatsoever. I'm sure if you rebuilt using his or another build slightly modified for lycan you'd do just fine.
Tyran
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on May 20, 2008 12:50:51 GMT
Not to be funny but if I can make a Kurai (Secret Subrace) Staffmaster work and demi it then am sure u can take that there build to hell and do the same.
Even your saves are decent. My poor staffy aint got a single save above 55. As for your gear set up I see nothing wrong with it, as long as the essentials like Death Immune, Fear Immune, KD, etc are covered then you should do fine, you never know u might even win a HF book on your way thru hell.
You have higher HP than my SHD that is currently tagged half way thru hell and your ac matches my Dex Lash.
So in short
Saves: Fine AC: Fine HP: Fine Gear Set up: Fine Level: 3 levels above fine since Hell can start at 55
My advice: Take it thru Avernus and see how it does. U may just find it does well.
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Post by Raj on May 20, 2008 13:25:47 GMT
10 Succor Stones is a pretty damn good offer sorry, it's not. 99% of people who played here long enough to have a spare HF book usually don't fugue enough to justify 10 SoS; the remaining 1% is Cata who has good memory and doesn't want to cheat limbo using SoS anyway I dont' read much the trading board lately but I remember just stonewarrior offering some low tier bur races for stones of succors, because he never liked to farm those in thids. Half fiend anyway is a good and versatile subrace, you don't see it in auction chests and is only traded for other valuabe burs. Burs that you're not going to get until you'll visit hells. The only no-hell no-bur things that come to my mind that can be traded for BURs are the wisdom and spell penetration artifacts, maybe some good pieces of loot dropped by Rona boss, and sometime hellstones when it's time for demigods to retag; those things could help you trade for some junk/decent burs, hardly good ones; SoS are useful to soften a trader but can't make a trade on their own ( expecially since they can be bought for 400/500mil each and there're those poor man sos called apport arcane in the random hell loot tables ). Now, what's wrong with your toon? It's a UR subrace with a full UR gear setup and well rounded stats. Just a ugly appearance Do you think you need a BUR toon with BUR gear in order to attempt hells? simply non sense. There're way worse geared/builded characters attempting hells, and the first two layers are usually good practice ground for newbies ( and a tank, expecially if not relying on bur gear, should attempt those at 55+; life is bit harder for casters but then it mostly depends on party ) if you're waiting for BURs to drop from sky then goodbye; if you'd like to make an effort and prove you ''deserve'' them, that build looks hells-worthy if you ask me. This is the trading board anyway so I'll will limit my bad grammar to this reply; if you're looking for advices then pms/tells in game/building section are adeguate ways to enlighten you, if you're trying to move anybody to pity or threat to leave in order to get what you wish, I hope you miserably fail.
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Post by CataclysmicDeath on May 20, 2008 14:11:15 GMT
10 Succor Stones is a pretty damn good offer sorry, it's not. 99% of people who played here long enough to have a spare HF book usually don't fugue enough to justify 10 SoS; the remaining 1% is Cata who has good memory and doesn't want to cheat limbo using SoS anyway Even if I did like using succours it'd take me a month or more to get through 10 Succours, even I don't fugue that much
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Post by stonewarrior on May 20, 2008 14:46:58 GMT
I would agree with the others that your toon looks to be quite Hell worthy. I have seen players attempting Hell with secret and open subraces. One player even Demi'd an open race Gnoll Barbarian a couple of weeks back. Do BUR races and BURs help? Certainly but they are hardly essential. If I might make a suggest, check out this thread... highergroundpoa.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=grouptime&action=display&thread=9920If you feel you are not ready for Hell then seek out Stryker and see if you can join one of his runs. I think you may find you are ready and be a contributing member. I know there have been numerous posts about new players rushing as fast as they can to get to Hell However, most of the time they are refering to players who don't have half the gear setup you have listed. In the end you should give it a shot. You might not get a Half Fiend book...but you will have, gain more experience and maybe even get some sweet gear or a different subrace.
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Post by Delfestra Ruinvorn on May 20, 2008 15:28:49 GMT
Before reincarnation and Pharlan's existence, my 5xD Lash was a Fallen Angel. Thats right, a str tank using a race with NO STR BONUS AT ALL. Nor, con/dex, for that matter.
As to your gear - I don't see much wrong with that setup. You have x/- physical covered, and exotics. The only significant issues I can see for you is that you don't seem to have x/- elements...or fear/poison immunity. Plus I'm not quite sure what your belt is doing for you - its a wizard belt, really.
And since you're a lycan, the %piercing pen can be a pain - if I were you, I'd find a Crest of Splendor (Phlegethos, set drop, untagged) to give you +10% vs piercing, and also fear immunity...and see if you can move Con to your belt slot with another belt. (Which is why I assume you're wearing the Titan's top - Str/Con, but the Crest has Dex/Str...)
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