Hell Treant/Troll Barbarian [29Barb, 10RDD, 1Bard]

[ZeroGravitySE]

Title:: Hell Barbarian STR Build [29Barbarian, 10RDD, 1Bard]
Nickname:: Enraged Barkskin
Race:: Human - Treant(UR), Half-Orc - Troll(common)
Alignment:: Chaotic Evil or Good
Level Progression[/u] - 21Barbarian, 1Bard, 10RDD, 8Barbarian

Background:: This treant was a unlucky one. He was burned and torchered by evil elfs called drow. He was then tossed to die in a heap of his brothers and sisters only to rise from the ground in anger and rage! His revenge will come swift and fast even if you can see his 20f branches waving in the air!

Description:: This is my first Barbarian Build ever made by me. I have never even touched the class before. But Treant seemed only playable thru this build. I'm sure there are other builds out there for treant, but I wanted a speed boost to make up for being slow, so basically my only choices where monk or barbarian, and I haven't played barbarian yet, so here is my build :-)

More Info on Barbarian: highergroundpoa.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=info&action=display&n=1&thread=6669&page=2#1152288485

Barbarian:

-Barbarians can become shapestrong, allowing them to become giant-sized at will. The character must have at least 30 levels of the barbarian class, be level 35 or higher, and find an item to be able to use this ability. Once a PC is Giant sized and relogs in that form, he will be able to use large weapons one-handed, freeing up the offhand slot for a shield or medium weapon. The size change will last until the PC relogs while in normal form. A barbarian's shapestrong rage also allows him to retain the 2 bonus attacks from double weapons even when offhanding a weapon or shield in the other hand.
-Characters with barbarian as their control class receive +1 regeneration per barbarian level above 40 (including legendary levels) while raging, up to a maximum of +20 regeneration at level 60.
-Mighty Rage has been altered. In addition to the normal bonuses, mighty rage now also simulates a stackable strength increase of 16, by adding temporary attack and damage buff effects to the barbarian. The additional damage will show as cold damage, but stacks with all other damages and ignores damage resistance and immunity. On achieving legendary levels, mighty rage lasts 10 times as long, if the character has barbarian as their control class.
-Thundering Rage adds d4 + 1/barbarian level (including legendary levels if control class is barbarian) sonic damage, instead of onhit deafen.
-Terrifying Rage has been altered, so that creatures under twice the barbarians level may become panicked, and those up to 3 times the barbarians level will suffer penalties (instead of panick if below the barbarian's level and penalties if below twice the barbarian's level). On achieving legendary levels, terrifying rage fear effects last 1d6 rounds instead of 1d3, if the character has barbarian as their control class.
-A character with barbarian as their control class gains +1 to strength, dexterity, and constitution every 5 legendary levels.
-On achieving legendary levels, a character with barbarian as their control class gains 1% immunity to physical damage for every two strength modifier points they have.

Free Feats From Classes
Barbarian:
* Level 1 Barbarian Fast Movement, Barbarian Rage (1x/day)
* Level 2 Uncanny Dodge I
* Level 4 Barbarian Rage (2x/day)
* Level 5 Uncanny Dodge II
* Level 8 Barbarian Rage (3x/day)
* Level 10 Uncanny Dodge III
* Level 11 Damage Reduction I
* Level 12 Barbarian Rage (4x/day)
* Level 13 Uncanny Dodge IV
* Level 14 Damage Reduction II
* Level 15 Greater Rage (4x/day)
* Level 16 Greater Rage (5x/day), Uncanny Dodge V
* Level 17 Damage Reduction III
* Level 19 Uncanny Dodge VI
* Level 20 Damage Reduction IV, Greater Rage (6x/day)
* Level 23 Epic Barbarian Damage Reduction
* Level 26 Epic Barbarian Damage Reduction II
* Level 29 Epic Barbarian Damage Reduction III

RDD:
* Level 1 Draconic Armor (+1 AC), Hit Die Increase (d6)
* Level 2 Dragon Abilities (+2 Strength)
* Level 3 Dragon Breath (2d10 Fire Damage)
* Level 4 Dragon Abilities (+2 Strength), Hit Die Increase (d8)
* Level 5 Draconic Armor (+1 AC)
* Level 6 Hit Die Increase (d10)
* Level 7 Dragon Breath (4d10 Fire Damage), Dragon Abilities (+2 Constitution)
* Level 8 Draconic Armor (+1 AC)
* Level 9 Dragon Abilities (+2 Intelligence), Wings
* Level 10 Dragon Breath (6d10 Fire Damage), Dragon Abilities (+4 Strength, +2 Charisma), Draconic Armor (+1 AC), Half-Dragon: Darkvision, Immunity to Fire, Immunity to Paralysis, Immunity to Sleep

My Pick Sub-Races
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"Treant" (secret UltraRare subrace) - require Human (changes Appearance)
STR +2, DEX -4, CON +3, WIS +5, +5 spellcraft, +10 animal empathy, free feat: Armor Skin,
25% vulnerable fire, 50% immune cold, increases character size to large,
reduced base movement rate - slow, speaks Animal, speaks Sylvan, speaks Treant

"Troll" - requires Half-Orc (changes appearance)
STR +2, DEX -2, CON +3, INT -2, CHA -2, regeneration +3, 75% vulnerable acid, 75% vulnerable fire, increases character size to large, speaks Troll

MUST TAKE - Skills (Descriptions)::
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Discipline - (Max This)
Parry - (Max This)
Taunt - (Max This)
Intimidate - (Max This)
Tumble - (Take +25 @lvl 22 w/Bard, Then +5 more in LL's)

STATS::
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Start:: Human/Treant/Final Stats
STR: 16 - 18 - 54+12=66
DEX: 16 - 12 - 17+12=29
CON: 15 - 18 - 26+12=38
WIS: 08 - 13 - 13+12=25
INT: 10 - 10 - 12+12=24
CHA: 08 - 08 - 10+12=22

Start:: Half-Orc/Troll/Final Stats
STR: 18 - 20 - 54+12=66
DEX: 14 - 12 - 17+12=29
CON: 15 - 18 - 24+12=36
WIS: 08 - 13 - 13+12=25
INT: 12 - 10 - 12+12=24
CHA: 06 - 06 - 10+12=22

HG Barbarian Stat Info:
- 1% immunity to physical damage for every two strength modifier points they have.
- +1 to strength, dexterity, and constitution every 5 legendary levels.

Weapon Info - This build is designed for Large Weapons only!
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(My Pick) - Great Axe


PRE-EPIC FEATS
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Skills: Discipline, Parry, Taunt, Intimidate(25 only), Tumble(CC wait till 21),
Free Treant Feats: Armor Skin
Free Troll Feats: None
Stats: All STR unless WRITTEN otherwise.

01: Barbarian(01):: Luck of Heroes, Toughness, (Troll: Luck of Heroes !![1Feat w/Troll]!!)
02: Barbarian(02)::
03: Barbarian(03):: Weapon Prof: Exotic or Free Feat (Troll: Take "Toughness", If you don't want Exotic Weapon.)
04: Barbarian(04):: +1DEX,
05: Barbarian(05)::
06: Barbarian(06):: Weapon Focus: (GreatAxe)
07: Barbarian(07)::
08: Barbarian(08):: +1CON, (Troll: +1STR)
09: Barbarian(09):: Lightning Reflexes
10: Barbarian(10)::
11: Barbarian(11)::
12: Barbarian(12):: Iron Will
13: Barbarian(13)::
14: Barbarian(14)::
15: Barbarian(15):: Improve Critical (GreatAxe)
16: Barbarian(16)::
17: Barbarian(17)::
18: Barbarian(18):: Blind Fight
19: Barbarian(19)::
20: Barbarian(20)::

EPIC FEATS
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21: Barbarian(21):: Epic Weapon Focus: (GreatAxe)
22: Bard(01):: (+1 Perform, +25Tumble)
23: RDD(01)::
24: RDD(02):: Great Strength I (Troll: Toughness)
25: RDD(03)::
26: RDD(04)::
27: RDD(05):: Great Strength II (Troll: Great Strength I)
28: RDD(06)::
29: RDD(07)::
30: RDD(08):: Great Strength III (Troll: Great Strength II)
31: RDD(09)::
32: RDD(10)::
33: Barbarian(22):: Terrifying Rage
34: Barbarian(23)::
35: Barbarian(24):: Thundering Rage
36: Barbarian(25):: Mighty Rage
37: Barbarian(26)::
38: Barbarian(27)::
39: Barbarian(28):: Great Constitution I, Epic Prowess (Troll: Epic Prowess, Armor Skin)
40: Barbarian(29)::

LL FEATS
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41: Barbarian(30)::
42: Barbarian(31):: LL Weapon Focus: (GreatAxe)
43: Barbarian(32)::
44: Barbarian(33)::
45: Barbarian(34):: LL Reflexes, (+1STR, +1CON, +1DEX)
46: Barbarian(35)::
47: Barbarian(36)::
48: Barbarian(37):: LL Willpower
49: Barbarian(38)::
50: Barbarian(39):: (+1STR, +1CON, +1DEX)
51: Barbarian(40):: LL Luck of Heroes
52: Barbarian(41)::
53: Barbarian(42)::
54: Barbarian(43):: Great Stength IV (Troll: Great Strength III)
55: Barbarian(44):: (+1STR, +1CON, +1DEX)
56: Barbarian(45)::
57: Barbarian(46):: Great Strength V (Troll: Great Strength IV)
58: Barbarian(47)::
59: Barbarian(48)::
60: Barbarian(49):: Great Strength VI (Troll: Great Strength V), (+1STR, +1CON, +1DEX)

MAX Treant/Troll STR Calculations::
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Treant: 18(base) +3(Pre-Epic) +5(Epic) +10(LL) +8(RDD) +6(GreatSTR) +4(HG Barbarian Bonus) = 54STR + 12 = 66STR
Troll: 20(base) +4(Pre-Epic) +5(Epic) +10(LL) +8(RDD) +5(GreatSTR) +4(HG Barbarian Bonus) = 54STR + 12 = 66STR

MAX TREANT/TROLL SAVES Calculations::
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Fort: +12[Pre-Epic] +14[MaxCON] +10[Epic] +04[LL-LOH] +05[LL] +20[ITEMS] = 65
Refe: +06[Pre-Epic] +08[MaxDEX] +09[LighRef+LLFeat] +04[LL-LOH] +10[Epic] +05[LL] +20[ITEMS] = 62
Will: +06[Pre-Epic] +06[MaxWIS] +09[IronWil+LLFeat] +10[Epic] +04[LL-LOH] +05[LL] +20[ITEMS] = 60

Fortitude: 65, Reflex: 62, Will: 60



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Build Version: 1.03
Date Started: August 08, 2007
Other/Old Versions: 1.00, 1.01, 1.02
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-ZEROGRAVITYSE-



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This build was designed on the following guidelines:
- Must have 10RDD, and of course 1Bard.
- Must take the highest possible levels for barbarian(29)
- Must have Very High STR/CON
- Must have all Rage Abilities
- Must take Double Weapon + Tower Shield
- Must Have: LL Willpower, LL Reflexes, Epic Reflexes

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Version 1.00
- I just finished off my Treant build and wanted to post it for review. I will be playing this character soon, and look VERY forward to it. I don't ever see any Treants on the server, and I really think there should be more. So I'm hoping this build will give people a reason to play Treant. This is the only idea I could come up with that I found sound. Monk was my other pick but monk in my eyes is still to weak for me to want to play. I might make one in the future. My next race to work on is Lycan. I will post the rest of the information within the next 24 hours, like resistances and other things alike. This build should work in Hell but I haven't been there with this character, I am just taking a educated guess because of the resistances this character has and some the gear I know exist.

Questions:
1: Should I drop Heavy armor feat for LL Luck of Heroes? I don't know if Medium armor is the best choice for barbarian?
2: Should I care about the Two-Weapon Feats?
3: I have 29 Barbarian Levels before 40, does that take out shapestrong, and if that is so because I know the build can't change what weapons should I look at? Just large ones like my ranger build?

Please comment with suggestions to this build, this had to be one of most unique designs because of Treant!

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Version 1.01
- Took out epic reflexes and replaced it with LL-LOH
- Fixed, lvl progression, background, and saves

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Version 1.02
- Added "Troll" subrace support

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Version 1.03
- Changed Weapon from Double Axe, to Great Axe.



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[bort]

This build won't have shapestrong, as that requires 30 barb Pre-LL.
Double weapons may still be good though, for crit range and multiplier.

In regard to medium armor, it's a trade off - slighly less damage immunity (you're a barb, get over it!) for slightly higher AC.
To get that AC though, you need 14-16 dexterity before gear.
Given the LL barb stat increases, that isn't too hard.*

*14 dex before gear lets you get the full +8 dex mod for those medium armors that allow maximum 8 dex mod.
Some have a maximum of 9 dex mod (and a lower base ac to match) and would require 16 dex before gear for full dex bonus to AC. In both cases you'd need +12 dex from gear to get that bonus.

With less than 30 levels of Barb pre LLs, no you shouldn't get the TWF feats, unless you're medium and/or plan on not using a shield.

[ZeroGravitySE]

bort said:

This build won't have shapestrong, as that requires 30 barb Pre-LL.
Double weapons may still be good though, for crit range and multiplier.

I had a feeling that was the case. But at the same time I like this build so much, I really don't care about the extra attacks compared to making treant playable.

[bort]

RDD gives some nice bonuses, and if you don't mind trading attacks for it (most STR assassins don't mind losing an attack for the bonuses from RDD) I'd say go for it.

[bort]

p.s. Wish I had LL Willpower.

[Enrith]

If you do choose Full Plate remember that it will give you a -10 to your parry skill and since the crit immunity % is based on the modified number you are looking at a total of 6% or so crit immune instead of 11-12%. (Assuming you spend 43 points in parry at lvl 40)

If using Tower Shield it will also give a -8 to parry so I'm not sure parry will help that much on this build since you don't have any parry or ESF Parry feats..

Of course 6% is better that 0%, but you could possibly spend the points on another skill.
Note that the 6% is pre LL, if you can take Parry in LL the % will rice accordingly.
I see parry much more useful typical dex build using robe and maxing parry close to 120.

Enrith

[wnxhalfwingseen]

Hm another way if after you get your last rage you could just go to RDD again and get 4 lvls of that which is what 1 or 2 ac i forget and also a defensive Free feat for the free Xtra -/3 DR which doesnt deam like alot compared to the great con but it starts with the barb DR a lil under doubling it which again seems poor but i cant tell ya how much 3 damage is when you can get near immunity to most other things

[ZeroGravitySE]

enrith said:

If you do choose Full Plate remember that it will give you a -10 to your parry skill and since the crit immunity % is based on the modified number you are looking at a total of 6% or so crit immune instead of 11-12%. (Assuming you spend 43 points in parry at lvl 40)

If using Tower Shield it will also give a -8 to parry so I'm not sure parry will help that much on this build since you don't have any parry or ESF Parry feats..

Of course 6% is better that 0%, but you could possibly spend the points on another skill.
Note that the 6% is pre LL, if you can take Parry in LL the % will rice accordingly.
I see parry much more useful typical dex build using robe and maxing parry close to 120.

Enrith

Going Medium Armor, Heavy Armor is... to heavy!

wnxhalfwingseen said:

Hm another way if after you get your last rage you could just go to RDD again and get 4 lvls of that which is what 1 or 2 ac i forget and also a defensive Free feat for the free Xtra -/3 DR which doesnt deam like alot compared to the great con but it starts with the barb DR a lil under doubling it which again seems poor but i cant tell ya how much 3 damage is when you can get near immunity to most other things

Thanks for the insight.

[ZeroGravitySE]

Version 1.02
- Added "Troll" subrace support