Post by stijnelijn on Jul 11, 2007 19:55:40 GMT
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A real barbarian! A big bezerking raging destruction machine! High attack, high damage! A GIANT!
*Be a good fighter in the pre-legendary time, start to shine in the legendary levels.
*Doable by more then just a couple of uberraces. Its not really meant for newbies but i do advise it for people who played a little while and now want a strong melee lady which can kill and survive in a battle.
*Be a nearly pure class taking max advantage of its bonuses.
That's what i wanted with this build.
Problems with a barbarian: quite meaningless saves, a rather low amount of feats at their disposal.
So how to solve the saves problem?
Get good charisma and add both the paladin bonus saves and the blackguard bonus saves to your character.
Voila, that problem is solved. Never look at these 3 shame-full levels you had to take again. (at least these stinking levels did not cost you AB)
Now for the goodies:
*Shapestrong rage and mighty rage are highly powerful skills.
*Thundering rage can do a extra 60 sonic damage to your attacks.
*You get some good damage reduction as a barbarian, both the epic barb damage reduction and the str immunity.
*The free +1str/dex/con / 5 lvls in LL beats all other classes. (except maybe them red blobs)
*Using a doubleweapon with a shield gives you good criticals and gives extra attacks while keeping up defense. I would not use any other weapontype with a shapestrong barbarian.
*Barbarians have a nice amount of base hitpoints.
*Shapestrong rage makes you the shining star of any party! Even your weapon is bigger then that stupid little minotaur!
*Plainly a good attack bonus.
The feats:
*pre-epic are exchangeable, so are epic skills more or less, just don,t pick the barb bonus feats when you got the long list to pick from.
*cleave is needed to get the blackguard levels, so power attack aswell.
*21 con is needed for mighty rage. When you start off with 18 con you need to get 2 con and get the free 1 con at level 45. Which then means you can take mighty rage at lvl 48.
This is what i made:
Half-Elf dragonblooded
16 str (18)
8 dex (8)
16 con (18)
8 wis (6)
8 int (10)
16 cha (16)
skills to take: (in order of importance)
5 hide for blackguard
max discipline
max intimidate
max tumble
rest in spellcraft
levels: (37 barbarian/2 blackguard/1 paladin)
1 barbarian exotic weapon proficiency
2 barbarian
3 barbarian weapon focus doublesword
4 barbarian
5 barbarian
6 barbarian power attack
7 barbarian
8 barbarian
9 barbarian cleave
10 paladin
11 blackguard
12 blackguard improved critical doublesword
13 barbarian
14 barbarian
15 barbarian toughness
16 barbarian
17 barbarian
18 barbarian blind-fight
19 barbarian
20 barbarian
21 barbarian great str 1
22 barbarian
23 barbarian
24 barbarian great str 2
25 barbarian
26 barbarian
27 barbarian great str 3 / armor skin
28 barbarian
29 barbarian
30 barbarian great str 4
31 barbarian epic weapon focus doublesword
32 barbarian
33 barbarian great str 5
34 barbarian
35 barbarian thundering rage
36 barbarian great str 6
37 barbarian
38 barbarian
39 barbarian great str 7/epic prowess
40 barbarian
41 barbarian
42 barbarian great str 8
43 barbarian
44 barbarian
45 barbarian great con 1
46 barbarian
47 barbarian
48 barbarian mighty rage
49 barbarian
50 barbarian
51 barbarian great str 9
52 barbarian
53 barbarian
54 barbarian epic skill focus intimidate
55 barbarian
56 barbarian
57 barbarian terrifying rage
58 barbarian
59 barbarian
60 barbarian legendary weapon focus doublesword
statboosts
lvls 4,8,12,16,20,24,28,32,36,40,48,52,56,60 Strenght
lvl 44 con (for mighty rage requirements)
Ending stats as far as i remember em:
*With a decent gmw and a little barbsong you will notice your charscreen showing 100+ AB. Yay.
*110 or more AC is quite doable. You wear a % immune heavy armor off course. Immo plate works fine already.
*Your 62 buffed strenght will give you a nice damage bonus and i think 13% psh immunity.
*Personally i walk around with around 1400 hp.
*saves: around 80fort 66 reflex 64will.
Doubts about this big girl:
*No conceal, this can hurt. Items or buffs will help.
*No evasion stuff.
*You need some specialized UR items to make terrifying rage remotely decent, i highly doubted whether or not to take this feat at all. The DC on this feat can become quite high with that equipment tough.
*Thundering rage is in my opinion not working correct at the moment. It does not last long at all(2.5 min or so), and when mighty rage is active(you always want mighty rage active) the greater rage does not restart it. If this gets fixed it would be a great feat to take.
*This char is not tested for the hells areas. According to the pros the char has dangerously low ac and hitpoints and you will die a lot out there for sure. Its a damage/strength tank after all.
Races to use:
*dragonblooded (ur race) is easiest for the above strat.
*prismatic is easier to get and could do great with this strat, little tinkering needed then. (21con essential).
*deep orc might be fun. Orcs like to be barbarian, little tinkering needed then. (21con essential).
*any race without str/con/cha penalties could do it with fine results. Even a plain human could. Tinkering needed (21con essential).
Additional tinkering options:
*Pick rogue levels instead of blackguard for tumble,evasion and UMD if you think you can miss the 10 bonus saves.
*Get a lot more con instead of str to gain additional hp. This and the rogue levels are suggested by the pros if you make chars on this server mainly to reach the hell areas. Not my personal cup of tea.
*2 paladin levels instead of 1 for the free fear immune feat.
*scrap terrifying rage and have 2 spare feats and a lot of skillpoints at your disposal.
*Use the bludgeoning dire mace instead of the sword, harder to keen tough.
Gear suggestions:
Basicly, focus on getting good ac. Get a amulet and shoes with as high as possible ac, get a shield. Get a plate mail with damage % immunities. And make sure you have a xx/- resist for each damage type. Off course get the standard mind/death/harm immunities available on many items. You will have a surprisingly easy time compared to most of the guys around you.
A real barbarian! A big bezerking raging destruction machine! High attack, high damage! A GIANT!
*Be a good fighter in the pre-legendary time, start to shine in the legendary levels.
*Doable by more then just a couple of uberraces. Its not really meant for newbies but i do advise it for people who played a little while and now want a strong melee lady which can kill and survive in a battle.
*Be a nearly pure class taking max advantage of its bonuses.
That's what i wanted with this build.
Problems with a barbarian: quite meaningless saves, a rather low amount of feats at their disposal.
So how to solve the saves problem?
Get good charisma and add both the paladin bonus saves and the blackguard bonus saves to your character.
Voila, that problem is solved. Never look at these 3 shame-full levels you had to take again. (at least these stinking levels did not cost you AB)
Now for the goodies:
*Shapestrong rage and mighty rage are highly powerful skills.
*Thundering rage can do a extra 60 sonic damage to your attacks.
*You get some good damage reduction as a barbarian, both the epic barb damage reduction and the str immunity.
*The free +1str/dex/con / 5 lvls in LL beats all other classes. (except maybe them red blobs)
*Using a doubleweapon with a shield gives you good criticals and gives extra attacks while keeping up defense. I would not use any other weapontype with a shapestrong barbarian.
*Barbarians have a nice amount of base hitpoints.
*Shapestrong rage makes you the shining star of any party! Even your weapon is bigger then that stupid little minotaur!
*Plainly a good attack bonus.
The feats:
*pre-epic are exchangeable, so are epic skills more or less, just don,t pick the barb bonus feats when you got the long list to pick from.
*cleave is needed to get the blackguard levels, so power attack aswell.
*21 con is needed for mighty rage. When you start off with 18 con you need to get 2 con and get the free 1 con at level 45. Which then means you can take mighty rage at lvl 48.
This is what i made:
Half-Elf dragonblooded
16 str (18)
8 dex (8)
16 con (18)
8 wis (6)
8 int (10)
16 cha (16)
skills to take: (in order of importance)
5 hide for blackguard
max discipline
max intimidate
max tumble
rest in spellcraft
levels: (37 barbarian/2 blackguard/1 paladin)
1 barbarian exotic weapon proficiency
2 barbarian
3 barbarian weapon focus doublesword
4 barbarian
5 barbarian
6 barbarian power attack
7 barbarian
8 barbarian
9 barbarian cleave
10 paladin
11 blackguard
12 blackguard improved critical doublesword
13 barbarian
14 barbarian
15 barbarian toughness
16 barbarian
17 barbarian
18 barbarian blind-fight
19 barbarian
20 barbarian
21 barbarian great str 1
22 barbarian
23 barbarian
24 barbarian great str 2
25 barbarian
26 barbarian
27 barbarian great str 3 / armor skin
28 barbarian
29 barbarian
30 barbarian great str 4
31 barbarian epic weapon focus doublesword
32 barbarian
33 barbarian great str 5
34 barbarian
35 barbarian thundering rage
36 barbarian great str 6
37 barbarian
38 barbarian
39 barbarian great str 7/epic prowess
40 barbarian
41 barbarian
42 barbarian great str 8
43 barbarian
44 barbarian
45 barbarian great con 1
46 barbarian
47 barbarian
48 barbarian mighty rage
49 barbarian
50 barbarian
51 barbarian great str 9
52 barbarian
53 barbarian
54 barbarian epic skill focus intimidate
55 barbarian
56 barbarian
57 barbarian terrifying rage
58 barbarian
59 barbarian
60 barbarian legendary weapon focus doublesword
statboosts
lvls 4,8,12,16,20,24,28,32,36,40,48,52,56,60 Strenght
lvl 44 con (for mighty rage requirements)
Ending stats as far as i remember em:
*With a decent gmw and a little barbsong you will notice your charscreen showing 100+ AB. Yay.
*110 or more AC is quite doable. You wear a % immune heavy armor off course. Immo plate works fine already.
*Your 62 buffed strenght will give you a nice damage bonus and i think 13% psh immunity.
*Personally i walk around with around 1400 hp.
*saves: around 80fort 66 reflex 64will.
Doubts about this big girl:
*No conceal, this can hurt. Items or buffs will help.
*No evasion stuff.
*You need some specialized UR items to make terrifying rage remotely decent, i highly doubted whether or not to take this feat at all. The DC on this feat can become quite high with that equipment tough.
*Thundering rage is in my opinion not working correct at the moment. It does not last long at all(2.5 min or so), and when mighty rage is active(you always want mighty rage active) the greater rage does not restart it. If this gets fixed it would be a great feat to take.
*This char is not tested for the hells areas. According to the pros the char has dangerously low ac and hitpoints and you will die a lot out there for sure. Its a damage/strength tank after all.
Races to use:
*dragonblooded (ur race) is easiest for the above strat.
*prismatic is easier to get and could do great with this strat, little tinkering needed then. (21con essential).
*deep orc might be fun. Orcs like to be barbarian, little tinkering needed then. (21con essential).
*any race without str/con/cha penalties could do it with fine results. Even a plain human could. Tinkering needed (21con essential).
Additional tinkering options:
*Pick rogue levels instead of blackguard for tumble,evasion and UMD if you think you can miss the 10 bonus saves.
*Get a lot more con instead of str to gain additional hp. This and the rogue levels are suggested by the pros if you make chars on this server mainly to reach the hell areas. Not my personal cup of tea.
*2 paladin levels instead of 1 for the free fear immune feat.
*scrap terrifying rage and have 2 spare feats and a lot of skillpoints at your disposal.
*Use the bludgeoning dire mace instead of the sword, harder to keen tough.
Gear suggestions:
Basicly, focus on getting good ac. Get a amulet and shoes with as high as possible ac, get a shield. Get a plate mail with damage % immunities. And make sure you have a xx/- resist for each damage type. Off course get the standard mind/death/harm immunities available on many items. You will have a surprisingly easy time compared to most of the guys around you.