Moonlit scream - 28WM/10FTR/2SD

[whodat1]

The term "me barsh gud" has been thrown around a lot these days, but this build really focuses on that goal.
Based on the info so far, hoping this builds name can later be changed to "Bane of the 9 Hells". (Note: NOT a cue to add mobs with spears to area).

Race: Halfling
Subrace: Lycan (Ultra Rare Secret)
Bonus stuff: Dodge, Improved Initiative, +4 Regen, 25% Vulnerability (Piercing)

Starting Abilities:
Str 8
Dex 20 (24 With Subrace)
Con 14 (16 with Subrace)
Int 14
Wis 8
Cha 8 (6 with Subrace)

1. Fighter - WF: Rapier, Weapon Finesse
2. Fighter - Mobility
3. Fighter - Expertise
4. Fighter - Dex +1, Spring Attack
5. Fighter
6. Fighter - Whirlwind Attack, WS: Rapier
7. Fighter
8. Fighter - Dex +1, Improved Critical: Rapier (4 to intimidate)
9. WM - Weapon of Choice: Rapier, Toughness
10. WM
11. WM
12. WM - Dex +1, Improved Expertise
13. WM
14. WM
15. WM - Iron Will
16. WM - +1 Dex
17. WM
18. WM - Lightning Reflexes
19. Fighter
20. Fighter - +1 Dex, Blind Fight, (10 to hide, 8 to ms, 5 to tumble, dump concentration, hold discipline at 15)
21. Shadow Dancer - Great Dex I (dump tumble, rest into hide)
22. WM
23. WM
24. WM - Dex +1, Great Dex II, Epic WF: Rapier
25. WM
26. WM
27. WM - Great Dex III, Armor Skin
28. WM - Dex +1
29. WM
30. WM - Great Dex IV, Epic Prowess
31. WM
32. WM - Dex +1
33. WM - Great Dex V, Improved Whirlwind Attack
34. WM
35. WM
36. WM - Dex +1, Great Dex VI, Superior Initiative
37. Shadow Dancer (Dump points into tumble, get hide to 35)
38. WM - Great Dex VII
39. WM
40. WM - Dex +1, Epic Toughness I (Discipline)

Abilities Ending:
Str 8
Dex 41
Con 16
Int 14
Wis 8
Cha 6

Naked AC: 35
Base Attack: 30
Unarmed: +46/41/36/31
Rap with max attack: +76/71/66/61
HP: 576
Fortitude: 24
Reflex: 38
Will: 18

Skills @ 40:
Concentration 26, discipline 42, hide 50, move silently 23, tumble 55, 0 left over

LL Progression:

42. Epic Will
45. Epic Fortitude
48. Great Dex VIII
51. Great Dex IX
54. Great Dex X
57. Great Con I
60. Great Con II
All Points to Dex

Notes:
This build is based on the advice given by several people, funky, bald, yue, hiryuu, and others (thanks). Similar to caths stinger build as well, but optimized for lycan and built on the extreme side of dex.

Pros: Highest Dex you can get. Max race+Max roll+all dex points+dex from subrace+all great dex feats. HIPS, evasion, uncanny dodge, super wm AB, high initiative, discipline, tumble.
Cons: Low will, lacking in concentration/spellcraft skills, can't carry a lot, need to cover for piercing vulnerability. Hope you like hitting things, because thats all your doing

Rapiers are great if you have dd/db raps, and a permabuffing keen monkey on another account, but if thats too much of a hassle for you, kukris or handaxe will work out fine.

I decided to get the maximum dex possible, and so with 20 starting I sacrifice other stats for it. If your not looking to top out (realistically you have dex to spare) your other stats could certainly use it.

---- Revision notes
Changed Race to hafling. I chose hafling over elf, since your med size due to the subrace and halfling gives +1 to universal saving throws, which is more useful then the elf racial stuff.
The rebuild changed the following from human (besides stats):
1 more tumble ac, 1 more ab, 1 to fortitude, 2 to reflex, 1 to will. Lost 1 disc, 4 hide, gained 3 move silently, gained 1 tumble, lost 38 extra skill points), lost human bonus feat, took blind fight at 20 instead of 1.

I also got rid of epic reflexes and added great con II, which I agree might be better to have at that point.

Thanks for the advice so far!

[chainlink]

Not sure Epic Reflex has much benefit as your standard reflex save will be uber anyway which means you could get another point of Great Con and if you are taking two points of Great Con I'd grab them before level 40 as I believe LL HP bonus from Con increase work slightly differently?

[jctrapster]

Actually, not *quite* the highest dexterity possible-with halfling or elf as a main race, then Lycan as sub, you can start with 24 Dex, +20 from stat choices, +10 from Great Dex, +12 from items, and +4 from either rogue/barbarian legendary levels, for a grand total of 70 Dexterity, a +30 modifier. Close though.

[jctrapster]

Also, I'm not convinced that Shadowdancer is the best class for you-while the uncanny dodge and evasion are nice, you might be better served by rogue, as HIPS is not so useful here.

[mishimayukio]

May I suggest taking halfling as your base race. You gain +2 dex but still retain the ability to use rapiers and tower shields.

[hiryuu]

Do you mean Elf? Or does Lycan force the Medium size?

Rogue allows for UMD on scrolls. Aside from that, I'm not sure what it brings to the table above a Shadow Dancer. Uncanny Dodge makes a huge difference with that level of Dex.

[FunkySwerve]

Yup, lycan forces medium, like illithid for gnome wizzies.
Funky

[whodat1]

Wanted to mention something, if your done building, and looking for your ending stats, its best to log off and log on. All the de-leveling and re-leveling does something wacky to the game, and many times does not calculate hp and skills properly until you log back on.
A perfect example is that all 3 of my test builds for this build had different hp, in the high 400's. Today, after logging back on, they now all have 576, which makes a lot more sense, since their con is all the same.

[FunkySwerve]

The hitpoint maxing script doesnt take effect until you relog.
Funky

[dgcook]

funkyswerve said:

The hitpoint maxing script doesnt take effect until you relog.
Funky

Hm never knew that was a script, I thought it was a glitch or something lol.

[FunkySwerve]

Read the book you get from the captain on the boat.
Funky

[AW O'Reilly]

halflings treat the medium rapier as a large / 2 handed weapon don't they?

[Undead Monkey]

lol, this build is almost a year old