Winged Dragon (2 Bard/8 Paladin/30 RDD)

[aommaster1069]

After some serious experiments with abilities, level progressions, subraces, and skill points I have came up with this RDD build. Better saves than Dusty's Pal while still holding up its Epic Damage Reduction 9 and its damage dealing ability. I now present to you, the one and only, Winged Dragon!

"Dragonblooded" (secret UltraRare subrace) - requires Half-Elf STR +2, CON +2, WIS -2, INT +2, CHA +2, +5 lore, 10% immunity to acid/cold/electrical/fire

Race: Half-Elf
Subrace: Dragonblooded

Ability/Start/Bonus/At 40
STR: 16/18/40
DEX: 10/10/10
CON: 16/18/22
WIS: 10/8/8
INT: 11/13/16
CHA: 11/13/16

Level Progression
1 Bard/4 Paladin/10 RDD/4 Paladin/1 Bard/20 RDD

Skills
43 Concentration/43 Discipline/43 Lore/25 Spellcraft/20 Tumble/2 Left wherever (NOTE: Take the tumble at level 20[bard])

Feats
01: Luck of Heroes
03: Weapon Focus Greatsword
06: Toughness
09: Lightning Reflexes
12: Iron Will
15: Improved Critical Greatsword
18: Blind Fight
21: Armor Skin
24: Epic Toughness 1/Epic Toughness 2
27: Epic Toughness 3
28: Epic Toughness 4
30: Epic Toughness 5
32: Epic Toughness 6
33: Epic Toughness 7
36: Epic Toughness 8/Epic Toughness 9
39: Epic Reflexes
40: Epic Toughness 10 *Congratulations you have just received your large form of RDD!*
42: Epic Weapon Focus Greatsword
45: LL Reflexes
48: Epic Damage Reduction 1
51: Epic Damage Reduction 2
54: Epic Damage Reduction 3
57: LL Luck of Heroes
60: LL Will

Basic Stats at 40
Fortitude: 33
Reflex: 28
Will: 27
AB: 42
AC: 24
HP: 896

I am quite satisfied with this build. I want to know improvements that could be made in order to "up" the power of this build. Thanks for reading and enjoy!

- FyreChyld

[Senaattori]

hmm.. very nice build indeed. could u post lvl 60 AB and maxed saves just in case

[Trazik]

This is more or less the modifications I made when I made my Dusty's Pal build. However, I did not take the Epic DR feats, and I came to understand that the Luck of Heroes, and Legendary Luck Feats were not useful for my character (saves of 75/73/75 can probably afford a drop of 5 to each). This would allow me (if I chose to remake ... yet again) to take 2 more Great Strength feats and Exotic Weapon Proficiency (for one of the double weapons with bigger crit ranges than greatsword). I did not do this earlier because those weapons were not available to me.

Also, I found that I did not need any points in Intelligence or Wisdom. I believe that an odd Intelligence score at lvl 1 (13) will result in an odd score at lvl 60 (RDD50).

FWIW, I still consider your build and mine to be Dusty's Pal, but that's my 2 cents.

My (slightly non-perfect non-munchkinned) build was posted here:
highergroundpoa.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=buildtalk&action=display&n=1&thread=8184

Kind regards,

Trazik

[atomicsomething]

Pretty messy....

Concerning class breakdown, no RDD build posted so far used the 4 Bard/6 Pally/30 RDD combo. This combo leaves you with the same BAB and grants you 1 more to reflex and will saves (than going 1-3 bard level).

For stats, starting with odd Int and Cha is useless as you'll end up with odd numbers (On LL levels, you'll gain one more point to each).
As you're splashing with pally, go 10 INT and 12 CHA on start to gain 1 to each saves.

I would also recommend to drop WIS to 8 and go 14 CHA. 2 points on WIS will only raise your will save, while 2 more CHA raise all your 3 saves.

Now going 4 Bard/6 Pally/30 RDD with 16/10/16/8/10/14 stats gives you the following saves naked at 40 :
33 Fort / 25 Will / 23 Reflex

Fully equiped @ 60, you gain :
5 to all from LL progression
6 to all from equipment boost CON/WIS/DEX
6 to all from equipement boost CHA
20 to all from equipment
1 to all with CHA RDD bonus
1 to Fort with CON RDD bonus

So @60 (without any feats boosting saves) :
72 Fort / 63 Will / 61 Reflex.

Well, those saves are not so bad overall. Now it's up to you to decide if you want to boost them more with feats, but you certainly dont need to spend 7 feats (3 pre-epic, 1 epic, 3 legendary) on saves.