Post by darc on Oct 8, 2009 22:13:32 GMT
*** Requires HG Enhanced ***
I wanted to build a stompy Orc and ended up with one of the more exacting builds I've ever tried to follow. You really have to take feats and skills in the proper order.
Harper Scout was taken pre-epic for the saves (instead of 12/6/6 it gives 10/9/9, along with the Luck feats you get a final of 61/60/60 instead of 63/57/57).
Weapon Master is taken at levels 23-27 to make an alternate build possible that allows for Listen/Spot 30 at lvl 27 and takes Legendary Battle Awareness. You have to give up other skills and feats and I think you could cover the sneak immune with gear so I'm not sure it's worth it to lose 1 AB, 1 Damage and 2 AC. But the build choice is there.
Level Progression: 16 Fighter/5 Harper Scout/2 FIghter/5 Weapon Master/12 Fighter
Alignment: any non-Evil
Hal-Orc Bonus Feats - Toughness, Blooded (allows LSA Tumble)
All Stat increases go into STR
NOTE: You will need skill points at lvl 15 to spend on Lore, Persuade and Search to qualify for Harper Scout at lvl 17.
Level
1 Fighter - Luck of Heroes
Fighter Bonus Feat - Dodge
2 Fighter
Fighter Bonus Feat - Weapon Focus
3 Fighter - Blindfight
4 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Mobility
5 Fighter
6 Fighter - Expertise
Bonus Fighter Feat - Weapon Specialization
7 Fighter
8 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Improved Critical
9 Fighter Power Attack
10 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Greater Weapon Focus
11 Fighter
12 Fighter - Iron Will
Bonus Fighter Feat - Spring Attack
13 Fighter
14 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Whirlwind Attack
15 Fighter - Alertness
16 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Power Critical
17 Harper Scout - Favoured Enemy: Outsider
18 Harper Scout
19 Harper Scout - Cleave
20 Harper Scout
21 Harper Scout - Great STR I, Epic Will
22 Fighter
23 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Epic Weapon Focus
24 Weapon Master - Great STR II, Weapon of Choice
25 Weapon Master
26 Weapon Master
27 Weapon Master - Great STR III
28 Weapon Master
29 Fighter
30 Fighter - Great STR IV
Bonus Fight Feat - Armor skin
31 Fighter
32 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Epic Prowess
Specialization[/color]
33 Fighter - Great STR V
34 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Epic Weapon Specialization
35 Fighter
36 Fighter - Great STR VI
Bonus Fighter Feat - Greate Cleave
37 Fighter
38 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Overwhelming Critical
39 Fighter - Great STR VII
40 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Devestating Critical
42 Legendary Luck
45 LSA: Tumble
48 Legendary Weapon Focus
51 Legendary Weapon Specialization
54 Legendary Reflexes
57 Great +STR VIII
60 Epic Fortitude
Skills
This build gets 240 points but needs 30 for Search, Persuade and Lore leaving 210 or 3 maxed skills plus some change:
Take these at lvl 15:
Lore 6
Persuade 8
Search 4
Max the rest from lvl 17 onward:
Discipline
Tumble - can't take until lvl 46
Parry or Craft Armor (50% crit immune vs +2 AC)
plus 30 points left over for these two skills (or just pick one):
Craft Armor
Concentraion for Hells checks
AB 91 = 19(bab)+10(epic)+12(LL)+26(stat and +14 gear)+16(IOF)+9(feat)+0(skill)+0(size)
Fort 58 = 11(base)+10(epic)+5(legendary)+8(con mod)+20(items)+4(feats)
Ref 59 =9(base)+10(epic)+5(legendary)+7(dex mod)+20(items)+8(feats)
Will 59 = 9(base)+10(epic)+5(legendary)+5(wis mod)+20(items)+10(feats)
EDIT: build updated
changed HS levels to 17-21
dropped toughness for Lightning Relfexes
dropped Favoured Enemy feat for Epic Will
I wanted to build a stompy Orc and ended up with one of the more exacting builds I've ever tried to follow. You really have to take feats and skills in the proper order.
Harper Scout was taken pre-epic for the saves (instead of 12/6/6 it gives 10/9/9, along with the Luck feats you get a final of 61/60/60 instead of 63/57/57).
Weapon Master is taken at levels 23-27 to make an alternate build possible that allows for Listen/Spot 30 at lvl 27 and takes Legendary Battle Awareness. You have to give up other skills and feats and I think you could cover the sneak immune with gear so I'm not sure it's worth it to lose 1 AB, 1 Damage and 2 AC. But the build choice is there.
Level Progression: 16 Fighter/5 Harper Scout/2 FIghter/5 Weapon Master/12 Fighter
Alignment: any non-Evil
Ability | Half-Orc | Deep-Orc | Level 60 |
STR | 16 | 18 | 46 |
DEX | 15 | 13 | 13 |
CON | 14 | 14 | 14 |
INT | 14 | 14 | 14 |
WIS | 8 | 6 | 6 |
CHA | 6 | 8 | 8 |
Hal-Orc Bonus Feats - Toughness, Blooded (allows LSA Tumble)
All Stat increases go into STR
NOTE: You will need skill points at lvl 15 to spend on Lore, Persuade and Search to qualify for Harper Scout at lvl 17.
Level
1 Fighter - Luck of Heroes
Fighter Bonus Feat - Dodge
2 Fighter
Fighter Bonus Feat - Weapon Focus
3 Fighter - Blindfight
4 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Mobility
5 Fighter
6 Fighter - Expertise
Bonus Fighter Feat - Weapon Specialization
7 Fighter
8 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Improved Critical
9 Fighter Power Attack
10 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Greater Weapon Focus
11 Fighter
12 Fighter - Iron Will
Bonus Fighter Feat - Spring Attack
13 Fighter
14 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Whirlwind Attack
15 Fighter - Alertness
16 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Power Critical
17 Harper Scout - Favoured Enemy: Outsider
18 Harper Scout
19 Harper Scout - Cleave
20 Harper Scout
21 Harper Scout - Great STR I, Epic Will
22 Fighter
23 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Epic Weapon Focus
24 Weapon Master - Great STR II, Weapon of Choice
25 Weapon Master
26 Weapon Master
27 Weapon Master - Great STR III
28 Weapon Master
29 Fighter
30 Fighter - Great STR IV
Bonus Fight Feat - Armor skin
31 Fighter
32 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Epic Prowess
Specialization[/color]
33 Fighter - Great STR V
34 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Epic Weapon Specialization
35 Fighter
36 Fighter - Great STR VI
Bonus Fighter Feat - Greate Cleave
37 Fighter
38 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Overwhelming Critical
39 Fighter - Great STR VII
40 Fighter
Bonus Fighter Feat - Devestating Critical
42 Legendary Luck
45 LSA: Tumble
48 Legendary Weapon Focus
51 Legendary Weapon Specialization
54 Legendary Reflexes
57 Great +STR VIII
60 Epic Fortitude
Skills
This build gets 240 points but needs 30 for Search, Persuade and Lore leaving 210 or 3 maxed skills plus some change:
Take these at lvl 15:
Lore 6
Persuade 8
Search 4
Max the rest from lvl 17 onward:
Discipline
Tumble - can't take until lvl 46
Parry or Craft Armor (50% crit immune vs +2 AC)
plus 30 points left over for these two skills (or just pick one):
Craft Armor
Concentraion for Hells checks
AB 91 = 19(bab)+10(epic)+12(LL)+26(stat and +14 gear)+16(IOF)+9(feat)+0(skill)+0(size)
Fort 58 = 11(base)+10(epic)+5(legendary)+8(con mod)+20(items)+4(feats)
Ref 59 =9(base)+10(epic)+5(legendary)+7(dex mod)+20(items)+8(feats)
Will 59 = 9(base)+10(epic)+5(legendary)+5(wis mod)+20(items)+10(feats)
EDIT: build updated
changed HS levels to 17-21
dropped toughness for Lightning Relfexes
dropped Favoured Enemy feat for Epic Will