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Post by desocupado on Feb 17, 2012 15:26:52 GMT
Well, this idea seems really nice For Wis based slingers let's work on it: Need some help/suggestions.
So far:
Halfling: Furchin - Maxed Wisdom
Feats: Pre-epic: 7+2 (furchin bonus) Epic: 7+6 (cleric) Legendary: 7+3(tome) Total 32
Choices: (10) Great Wisdom (4) LSF Evocation (4) LSF Abjuration (4) Legendary spell penetration Armor Skin - Lightning Reflexes - Great Fortitude - Legendary Reflexes (6) WF EWF EP LWF Pointlbank shot Zen archery (2) Bullheaded LSA Disciple <--or---> Blooded LSA tumble (2) Extend spell & Mage Armor
AC: Lowers 120's with medium armor + shield due ABJ and no tumble. But with Cleric's buffs/debuffs and slinger's conceal might be enough.
AB: 15+10+12+27+20+7 = 91 - A bit on low side, but perpetual restoration might cut it.
Other stuff I wanted get: 1 - Acess to both tumble and disciple 2 - Greater ruin
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Post by Torin on Feb 17, 2012 15:33:55 GMT
Implode is not a Slinger spell. What is the idea of that build?
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Post by Raj on Feb 17, 2012 15:46:25 GMT
He could plode fine enough most of the primary implode targets due to them not having spell resistance. Giving up a great epic ( no miracle? no girdle? ) and running around with junkish ac/ab/saves isn't that hot anyway, and some gear choices are going to be devoted to spell slots too so gateless dr/imms are abysmal as well.
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Post by desocupado on Feb 17, 2012 17:27:08 GMT
Implode is not a Slinger spell. What is the idea of that build? Sling and implode basically. I'm trying to figure a way to do both. An idea I had was to wear heavy armor + shield for imm since Magic Vestiment gives both them +19AC bonus.
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Post by fallenwizard on Feb 20, 2012 23:52:12 GMT
I made some tests with slinger a while back and found pharlan to be best fit race.
Also tryed out wisdom slinger that'd wear fullplate for high imms and decent ac (130'ish) but it wasnt with evoc focuses, think it had abju at least for magic vestment as epic, was another one too but dont recall which one. I'm fairly sure it could be done, sling + plode if you give up huge chunk of defence, propably not recommed
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Post by BigStick on Feb 21, 2012 4:06:59 GMT
What would the effect be of adding a level of monk and going with robes to use all that lovely WIS for AC as well as AB and DC?
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Post by fallenwizard on Feb 21, 2012 8:23:49 GMT
Effect of adding monk level costs you 3d8 damage, if you get that then you might aswell get level of paladin for saves.
Maybe this version that I could find scratched down might work for you:
Half-Elf Pharlan
pre epic feats: blooded wep foc greter wep foc zen archery pointblank shot lighting reflex great fort
epic feats armor skin epic prowes epic wep foc spell foc greater spell foc epic spell foc great wis
bonus feats 6 great wis
leg feats LSA extend spell LSF LWF leg fort leg ref great wis 8
Starting stats
14/10/10/16/14/12
final at 2xD geared + arty would be 38 28 28 68 32 34 so +14mighty, +12 damage div might, 29 wis for ab
ab at 15 10 15 8 20 29 +possible craft wep =97 +1 pointblank when near enough
AC with epic abju focus + gird with asmo arty = 134, 136 if go for craft armor
Biggest downside however is no disc, 128 AC if CC tumble and take LSA disc instead, still pretty decent AC for fullplate tank. For skills, 5 skills: Listen, Tumble + mix of CA/CW/disc/heal/something that i dont remember right now.
Saves are all solid enough.
Now if you really want that evoc, that means no selfcast gird which drops AC down a bit. 130 with demi gear. I'm in a bit hurry now so cant check all the details.
Edit: Listen crossclassed goes 31 + 29 wis + 10 ESF item + 50 buffs = 120, self GR to keep it there, so even that half-elf allows LSA listen, no need to spend feat on it.
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Post by desocupado on Feb 23, 2012 21:20:13 GMT
I made some tests with slinger a while back and found pharlan to be best fit race. Also tryed out wisdom slinger that'd wear fullplate for high imms and decent ac (130'ish) but it wasnt with evoc focuses, think it had abju at least for magic vestment as epic, was another one too but dont recall which one. I'm fairly sure it could be done, sling + plode if you give up huge chunk of defence, propably not recommed Interesting build, but I wouldn't give up on maxxed DC for implosion What would the effect be of adding a level of monk and going with robes to use all that lovely WIS for AC as well as AB and DC? Monk would mean Robes + Torch, However the 35/4/1 Cleric/Paladin/Monk might make a better imploder - Wihout KD bullets and Magic damage, with -1d8 on damage. I might try something silly... Drow noble/Stargazer slinger 35/4/1. Evoc and Divination.
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