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Post by buddhamind on Feb 20, 2012 1:02:36 GMT
Does Paragon Spell Focus: Abjuration grant additional Armor AC from the Level 1 Mage Armor spell? Does it stack with Wiz specialization? I have my staffmaster in mind here.
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Post by FunkySwerve on Feb 20, 2012 2:48:34 GMT
All paragon focuses count as an additional focus for all spells. Whether or not a given spell is set up to handle that extra bonus is another question, however. Mage Armor is, though it looks like it's able to go past 20 with the Unbroken Way, now, if you have paragon focus. If someone could test that and get back to me, I'd appreciate it - I'm pretty sure those bonuses cap at 20, and I'm not sure what'll happen if you try to give 24.
Thanks, Funky
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Post by buddhamind on Feb 20, 2012 19:00:56 GMT
The cleric Evocation paragon spell appears to be giving Vile damage for my Good cleric, when it should be giving Sacred. Not that it matters much to me-- vile is just as good as sacred 99% of the time-- just thought I'd mention it as a bug. [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart uses item's special power. [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Raven : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *failure* : (14 + 0 = 14 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart : Initiative Roll : 24 : (15 + 9 = 24) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Raven: 757 (757 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Raven [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Zombie: 690 (690 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Zombie [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Zombie : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *failure* : (5 + 0 = 5 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Raven: 683 (683 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Raven [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Raven : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *failure* : (7 + 0 = 7 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Zombie: 747 (747 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Zombie [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Zombie : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *failure* : (2 + 0 = 2 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Raven: 744 (744 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Raven [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Raven : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *failure* : (12 + 0 = 12 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Zombie: 353 (353 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Zombie [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Zombie : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *automatic success* : (20 + 0 = 20 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Zombie: 667 (667 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Zombie [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Zombie : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *failure* : (2 + 0 = 2 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Raven: 364 (364 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Raven [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Raven : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *automatic success* : (20 + 0 = 20 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Raven: 720 (720 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Raven [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Raven : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *failure* : (4 + 0 = 4 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Zombie: 720 (720 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Zombie [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Zombie : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *failure* : (11 + 0 = 11 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Raven: 707 (707 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Raven [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Raven : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *automatic failure* : (1 + 0 = 1 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Raven: 721 (721 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Raven [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Raven : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *failure* : (16 + 0 = 16 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Raven: 716 (716 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Raven [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Raven : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *failure* : (14 + 0 = 14 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Raven: 728 (728 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Raven [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Raven : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *automatic failure* : (1 + 0 = 1 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Raven: 692 (692 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Raven [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Raven : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *failure* : (19 + 0 = 19 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Raven: 745 (745 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Raven [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Raven : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *failure* : (9 + 0 = 9 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Raven: 771 (771 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Raven [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Raven : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *failure* : (11 + 0 = 11 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart damages Raven: 748 (748 Vile) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Corinne Pureheart killed Raven [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:18] Raven : Reflex/Spell Save vs. Corinne Pureheart : *failure* : (3 + 0 = 3 vs. DC: 82) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:23] Raven attacks Corinne Pureheart : *miss* : (10 + 0 = 10) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:23] Raven attacks Corinne Pureheart : *miss* : (17 + 0 = 17) [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Mon Feb 20 13:58:24] Raven attacks Corinne Pureheart : *miss* : (9 + 0 = 9)
And before you ask, yes, I did verify that she is Lawful Good and not inadvertently evil.
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Post by FunkySwerve on Feb 20, 2012 22:13:47 GMT
Fixed in update, thanks.
Funky
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Post by buddhamind on Feb 23, 2012 20:52:46 GMT
All paragon focuses count as an additional focus for all spells. Whether or not a given spell is set up to handle that extra bonus is another question, however. Mage Armor is, though it looks like it's able to go past 20 with the Unbroken Way, now, if you have paragon focus. If someone could test that and get back to me, I'd appreciate it - I'm pretty sure those bonuses cap at 20, and I'm not sure what'll happen if you try to give 24. Thanks, Funky Tested (on a wiz reinc) and confirmed that, at least according to !list AC and the character sheet, it goes to +24. I tried to test in combat to confirm, but didn't know where to find enemies with the right AB. [CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Thu Feb 23 15:47:05] [Server] Armor class: Base: 10 Dexterity: 2 Wisdom: 0 Armor: 0 + 24 = 24 Shield: 0 Dodge: 3 Deflection: 3 Natural: 3 Tumble: 6 Size: 1 Other: 2 Total: 54 (current: 43)
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Post by FunkySwerve on Feb 23, 2012 20:57:33 GMT
Thanks, I appreciate it. Apparently all ac effects can go beyond 20 (save dodge) - they're only limited on armor.
Funky
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Post by Torin on Feb 23, 2012 21:49:08 GMT
Is 24 Armor AC intended for Mage Armor Spell or considered as an exploit (that will be fixed in 3 days)?
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Post by FunkySwerve on Feb 23, 2012 22:02:35 GMT
Undecided, at this point. It has pros and cons to it, which will need weighing, but I don't anticipate it changing in the next few weeks, if that helps.
Funky
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Post by Torin on Feb 23, 2012 22:13:32 GMT
k, thanks.
My level 66 large Staffy has now an AC of 136 and would hit 140 with increased Mage Armor.
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Post by magecat on Feb 24, 2012 0:07:12 GMT
Is there some place that I am not seeing that has the list of documents such as the under development spreadsheet?
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Post by Raj on Feb 24, 2012 0:36:49 GMT
LSF:ench provides +14 gmw; adding a daught doesn't improve it. Not sure if a oversight or a balance decision. Does PSF:ench improve gmw at all? Or PSF+daught for that matter.
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Post by FunkySwerve on Feb 24, 2012 1:34:53 GMT
Is there some place that I am not seeing that has the list of documents such as the under development spreadsheet? Which list of documents? Funky
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Post by FunkySwerve on Feb 24, 2012 1:37:58 GMT
LSF:ench provides +14 gmw; adding a daught doesn't improve it. Not sure if a oversight or a balance decision. Does PSF:ench improve gmw at all? Or PSF+daught for that matter. Here's the lowdown. We looked at the most risky issues and blocked them, but we may have overlooked some, and I know for a fact we just didn't look at some. I really don't want to do this piecemeal, so, how about this: if someone comes up with a list of all the spells affected by spell foci in ways other than DC, I'll check them all and make comprehensive documentation on them ingame, in the spell descriptions, and on the forums. Any help would be appreciated - it just involves going through all the spell docs on the forums (which ARE current) and noting all the mentions of spell foci having such effects. Thanks, Funky
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Post by magecat on Feb 24, 2012 2:16:21 GMT
Is there some place that I am not seeing that has the list of documents such as the under development spreadsheet? Which list of documents? Funky I don't know that there is one. I was just asking if there is a link or wiki article or such that lists all of the spreadsheets, etc that people are referencing. For instance, the green, white, etc items referenced in the OP come from?
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Post by FunkySwerve on Feb 24, 2012 2:25:35 GMT
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