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Post by FromWayBack on Mar 5, 2012 19:46:22 GMT
Heya guys, I have a 40 dsm and have been farming sphinx for some secret subs and so far I have these:
Aasimar
Daywalker
Shade
Siren
What kind of tanks can I build with these? Was thinking a barbarian, paladin, bg, cot, assassin with daywalker. Ranger, monk with aasimar. None with shade. Maybe a str/dex bard with siren? What would be the best? I was thinking a turning bg with rapier wit, dual wielding feats, divine might and divine shield with daywalker but what do you guys think?
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Post by Yojimbo on Mar 5, 2012 20:40:48 GMT
Aasimar makes for decent Divine tank IIRC
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Post by FromWayBack on Mar 6, 2012 0:26:21 GMT
Any ideas or builds are welcome, thanks guys in advance!
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Post by desocupado on Mar 6, 2012 0:52:54 GMT
What kind of tanks can I build with these? Was thinking a barbarian, paladin, bg, cot, assassin with daywalker. Ranger, monk with aasimar. None with shade. Maybe a str/dex bard with siren? What would be the best? I was thinking a turning bg with rapier wit, dual wielding feats, divine might and divine shield with daywalker but what do you guys think? Dual wielder Cha is hard to pull of ac-wise. If one were to do it, he should use it with paladin instead due aura of glory granting better bonuses to CHA based builds. Also, in order to use Cha for rapier wit, you'd have to discard Devastating critical, critical immunity and lots of ac (divine shield is CHa mod/2). A good build would be a human Aasimar smiter with one handed weapon and shield and abysmal dex. Lash of hatred also works very well with Aasimar and is quite sturdy, as it gets some concealment (tough you will need some skill feats on hide if you intend to use heavier armor). Daywalker is good for Barbarian or CoT dual wielder. |
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Post by uncanny on Mar 6, 2012 0:53:52 GMT
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Post by simpetar on Mar 6, 2012 14:36:40 GMT
Daywalker has a great potential for a splashed barbarian. Something like 32 barb / 3 pally (remember to take Divine Might) / 5 HS, using double weapon + shield.
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Post by Yojimbo on Mar 6, 2012 15:00:20 GMT
Just a comment on Deso's remark about Rapier Wit divine tank lacking Crit Imm and OC/DC while I do give up OC/DC on my Rapier Wit Paladin he does get normal Paladin Crit Imm. Mine is built using a BUR sub so it would be a factor in why it is able to manage this and it does have abysmal DEX.
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Post by FromWayBack on Mar 6, 2012 17:38:52 GMT
Hows this look?
Halfelf/Daywalker
STR: 15
DEX: 15
CON: 15
WIS: 8
INT: 12
CHA: 10
4 con/1dex/15str
18barb/2pally/13barb/4hs/1pally/1barb/1hs
max disc, listen, taunt, intimidate, tumble, 4search, 6lore, 8persuade, rest to craft armor
01: Blooded
03: WP Exotic
06: WF TBS
09: Alertness
12: Iron Will
15: Imp Crit TBS
18: Power Attack
21: TWF
24: ITWF
26: EWF
27: Cleave
30: Great Cleave, Armor Skin
33: Great STR 1
36: Great STR 2
39: Overcrit, Thundering Rage
(On both harperscout bonus feats take great dex 1 and 2)
42: LSA Tumble
45: LWF TBS
48: LL Will
51: Great STR 3
54: Great STR 4
57: Mighty Rage
60: Devastating Crit
What do you guys think of that?
STR at 60 with 14s = 54
DEX at 60 with 14s = 34
CON at 60 with 14s = 36
WIS at 60 with 14s = 20
INT at 60 with 14s = 26
CHA at 60 with 14s = 26
Add 4 to each for double demi and 2 each for level 80.
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Post by maljin on Mar 6, 2012 18:47:45 GMT
It looks quite solid. Some remarks:
Don't drop str any lower, otherwise you won't get crit imm while raging.
No need to max intimidate unless you're going to take terrifying rage. Better spend some of those points on concentration (class skill for pally, but not barb or harper scout) or try to get a reasonable score in UMD (as harper scout you can cross class it in LLs).
Div might as simpetar suggested would boost phys damage by some points as well, but with base cha of 14 + items (13 being the requirement for it) it won't last very long and you won't have a lot of uses either, so you'd probably be saving it for boss or other tough fights only. You'll get more from con mod while using mighty rage.
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Post by desocupado on Mar 6, 2012 19:40:39 GMT
I had a similar build using Prismatic subby, for the extra resists.
It works good with the 9 attacks, tough it takes a while to get critical immunity.
Also, upgrading it to Half Guardinal is very reasonable later, as it isn't very expensive. (this is what I did)
Recomendations:
I'd drop Intimidate for Craft Weapon (you need the AB, trust me)
Change the splash from Paladin to Blackguard. This allows you to equip the critical immunity ring and do the "evil" runs.
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Post by fallenwizard on Mar 6, 2012 23:17:51 GMT
I never had problems running out of rages as Barb for crit imms, just rest with rest of the group.
Also true fear imm is quite nice, swapping aligment back after rona/ely isnt all that hard, also not the kind of runs a barb really shines on, well sonic damage is great at Ely, but there yo dont need godlike saves anyways.
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Post by BigStick on Mar 7, 2012 14:01:51 GMT
I have an old Daywalker battle bard based on Funky's Basic Battle Bard. It worked quite well for a while. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2012 14:37:52 GMT
Hows this look? Halfelf/Daywalker STR: 15 DEX: 15 CON: 15 WIS: 8 INT: 12 CHA: 10 4 con/1dex/15str 18barb/2pally/13barb/4hs/1pally/1barb/1hs max disc, listen, taunt, intimidate, tumble, 4search, 6lore, 8persuade, rest to craft armor 01: Blooded 03: WP Exotic 06: WF TBS 09: Alertness 12: Iron Will 15: Imp Crit TBS 18: Power Attack 21: TWF 24: ITWF 26: EWF 27: Cleave 30: Great Cleave, Armor Skin 33: Great STR 1 36: Great STR 2 39: Overcrit, Thundering Rage (On both harperscout bonus feats take great dex 1 and 2) 42: LSA Tumble 45: LWF TBS 48: LL Will 51: Great STR 3 54: Great STR 4 57: Mighty Rage 60: Devastating Crit What do you guys think of that? STR at 60 with 14s = 54 DEX at 60 with 14s = 34 CON at 60 with 14s = 36 WIS at 60 with 14s = 20 INT at 60 with 14s = 26 CHA at 60 with 14s = 26 Add 4 to each for double demi and 2 each for level 80. nice job...don't forget 2 more each stat with paragon level end game gear (+16) and 2 more on top of that for the stat u burn an arty on. So at 80.... STR at 80 with 16s = 62 DEX at 60 with 14s = 40 CON at 60 with 14s and con arty = 44 WIS at 60 with 14s = 26 INT at 60 with 14s = 32 CHA at 60 with 14s = 32 I think you have a really nice build here and though I would do things just a little differently, this looks very solid. We should work on a bur version of this same build. Been done already but NOT with paragon levels and the new gear, and the ones that have been done certainly haven't been posted to my knowledge. |
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