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Post by chainlink on Apr 4, 2023 7:23:25 GMT
Tele did manage to 'Immo' several HC characters at about that level however they did not get the accomplishment as he ended up porting in a high level to kill him and then just breaking the crown for reasons that become obvious when you think about what it needs to kill him normally. Imagine not having access to DoM (so that's another three times you have to kill him) and then significantly reduce the quantity and power of spells based on lower caster level and access to gear and you are talking about a fight lasting multiple hours of real time and at any point during this he could decide not to be distracted, by whatever you are using for this function, and smack you down in a couple of hits. If you like a real challenge give it a go
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Post by boroie on Apr 4, 2023 14:26:57 GMT
Tele did manage to 'Immo' several HC characters at about that level however they did not get the accomplishment as he ended up porting in a high level to kill him and then just breaking the crown for reasons that become obvious when you think about what it needs to kill him normally. Imagine not having access to DoM (so that's another three times you have to kill him) and then significantly reduce the quantity and power of spells based on lower caster level and access to gear and you are talking about a fight lasting multiple hours of real time and at any point during this he could decide not to be distracted, by whatever you are using for this function, and smack you down in a couple of hits. If you like a real challenge give it a go Before the rules changed, were you not able to beat him within in an inch of his life with a level 80 tank and then leave, allowing the lowbie to land the final killing blow themselves?
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Post by chainlink on Apr 4, 2023 15:01:52 GMT
HC was different even before the restrictions on level 35 and higher zones so no that was not an option available to him, he had definitely done it the hard way as I'd discussed his builds, gear and tactics with him as he progressed through the accomplishments. One of the first people I played with, a very long time ago, did manage to get a level 3 immortal but much cheese (no longer available) was used iirc
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Post by Yojimbo on Apr 4, 2023 16:38:53 GMT
Before accomplishments all you needed was to go to the immo and break the crown to get immortality so there was no real level requirement I would say it would have technically been done with a level 1 way back in the day.
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Post by chainlink on Apr 4, 2023 22:56:10 GMT
No you had to get the Lolth tag first as the Sage won't send you on the immo run without and for some reason, I can't remember exactly why, Claus couldn't do it at level 1.
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Post by Yojimbo on Apr 5, 2023 13:50:13 GMT
Probably an issue with surviving and landing a killing blow with the tagging toon
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Post by chainlink on Apr 5, 2023 14:31:59 GMT
Nah same as previous post just immortality through the crown break as at that point in time the accomplishment did not exist, we are talking over 15 years ago
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Post by johannhowitzer on Apr 7, 2023 1:26:30 GMT
Accomplishments or no, the real issue with a solo run that is not allowed any pre-obtained items is popping the book chest in House Mat'Lis'sk. If you do it with a pixie, you need minimum 25 casterlevels. A rogue could maybe do it earlier, but would be unable to do the Lolth levers. Perhaps a wizard with rogue splash could get the skills before pixie does, but you'd need stuff like epic skill focus and even then you couldn't go much lower than 25. I'm considering the minimum for a soloist to be 25, if you have books and crown beforehand, theoretically casterlevel 20 for small stone wall to cheese the Immortal. Probably need 21 for supergate to rest during matrons though, as your SP will be awful.
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Post by Yrini on Apr 10, 2023 9:39:53 GMT
The lowest Tele managed to get immortal - with all tags - was a lvl 24, called Junior. The trick with HC is you can delevel till you are immortal. So he first made a few 35's then a few 30's. Then he did the run with a few lvl 30's and did join up with Junior on lvl 24, so that one got the tag as well. I have one or two lvl 35's the same way, and though it's fun, it's not really a challenge, not comparable to a solo run, HC or not.
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Post by dynneroth on Apr 13, 2023 19:26:46 GMT
Ah, the days when Immo was a 4 hour slog with six level 35 toons.
And I still can't believe NWN is 20+ years old.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 23:58:56 GMT
Come play, Dyn!
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Post by dynneroth on Apr 17, 2023 21:07:00 GMT
@raycoolj I'm working on it!
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