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Post by murdrax on Sept 5, 2023 6:57:31 GMT
highergroundpoa.proboards.com/thread/21131 by bazukar on hg wiki i know this is way out of date since was posted on Dec 1, 2011 at 1:24am. can somebody please either in a message to me or on this topic put up a updated build for today standards. posted here because wasnt sure where else to put it.
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Post by chirality on Sept 5, 2023 11:24:24 GMT
i mean...
it doesn't really need any update, tbh
necroing the build thread itself is fine if you're checking for updates
afaik the player is gone and hasn't been around for years
not sure if anyone other than OP actually ever made or used this build so there's prolly not much feedback anyone can give except theorycrafting or discussing/recommending a different build altogether, in which case a new thread is good anyway
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Post by chainlink on Sept 5, 2023 12:40:45 GMT
Only significant change that's affected it is the the poison immunity is no longer absolute as the constitution artifact was modified as it was considered OP (historically if something got used inordinately frequently across multiple builds it tended to get reviewed more closely). Subsidiary comments about HS boots and shadow shield potions are also no longer so relevant due to changes for both of these items. Dex based melee characters fall behind significantly on the damage front as they lack the boost from higher Str mod and not using a 2h weapon but as a starting character the build is fine and will probably keep you going until you have the ability to access some of the better subraces. You get bonus points (at least from me) for actually bothering to read the boards and look at suggested builds rather than going it alone to make some sort of Monk/Druid/Rogue abomination that leaves people scratching their heads as to what its trying to achieve
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Post by Yojimbo on Sept 5, 2023 14:44:53 GMT
What chirality & chainlink said now excuse me I am off to build some sort of Monk/Druid/Rogue abomination to drive people mad Yeah surprising some builds have had so little impactful changes in 10+ years the build stand as they are or changes are just minor clean ups and the build is in no way broken as it stands.
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Post by chirality on Sept 6, 2023 0:05:29 GMT
poison change has zero impact on this build or choice of arti
hs change also has zero impact on this build, but then again that "suggestion" was bad and discounted by OP in any case, because even back then it made no sense
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Post by chainlink on Sept 6, 2023 6:59:35 GMT
If you like playing Monks I'd say take the build to 60 then look at reincarnating to a better race and moving over to something like the End Game Monk build which will do significantly more damage whilst still being very solid.
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Post by desocupado on Sept 12, 2023 9:36:26 GMT
The defenses are very solid, but it's a Dexter monk weapon user. So neither it nor your foes die in a timely manner.
Typical modernization would include splashing fighter levels for weapon specialization (flat physical damage bonus) and possibly paladin for extra saves (and make base ab 16, netting an extra attack on top of freeing up feats). A 35/4/1 build. I'm not entirely sure it's worthwhile due base monk not offering enough offensive prowess compared to fighter or buff/caster tank, even more so as a dexterity tank.
I'd probably make it monk 39 and druid/cleric 1 then reverse the class breakdown with a reincarnation.
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Post by chainlink on Sept 12, 2023 14:08:35 GMT
The defenses are very solid, but it's a Dexter monk weapon user. So neither it nor your foes die in a timely manner. Typical modernization would include splashing fighter levels for weapon specialization (flat physical damage bonus) and possibly paladin for extra saves (and make base ab 16, netting an extra attack on top of freeing up feats). A 35/4/1 build. I'm not entirely sure it's worthwhile due base monk not offering enough offensive prowess compared to fighter or buff/caster tank, even more so as a dexterity tank. I'd probably make it monk 39 and druid/cleric 1 then reverse the class breakdown with a reincarnation. Agreed but by the time you've waited three months to convert your reincarnated 39 Monk 1 druid to a playable 39 Druid 1 Monk you'll likely have levelled something else to 60 but it would be nice to swap it over at that point I guess plus it will give you time to accumulate other BUR books to swap from Salamander to either Half-Celestial or Rilmani without having to use two of them. So my call would be to do that and spend the time between reincarnations using your new BUR race (or races depending on how many books you have) to make other viable builds and at the end you'll have a viable caster and something more melee focussed (or in fact ranged if you want to make a Salamander AA).
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Post by desocupado on Sept 12, 2023 14:31:57 GMT
Truth be told you cannot accumulate BUR books unless you are farmings oinos or hells. I remember doing a lot of oinos until i got enough UR gear.
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