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Post by mishimayukio on May 21, 2007 16:04:45 GMT
Should get a +2 or +5 bonus to casterlevel.
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Post by velikibaatezu on May 22, 2007 8:58:57 GMT
Would be overpowered i feel,especialy with caster bard around, and pm casters would loose value when it comes to high sr creatures like naruzgons
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Post by lala on May 22, 2007 9:38:07 GMT
They get an extra +1 DC with stat increases anyway. Do it twice and that +2 becomes very nice.
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Post by dodrudon on May 22, 2007 9:53:16 GMT
Don't think you get the +2 stats twice. +1 Casterlevel would make sense though.
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Post by cathedralmaster on May 22, 2007 16:10:23 GMT
Don't think you get the +2 stats twice. If you get demigod x2, you do.
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Post by pktrony on May 25, 2007 13:21:49 GMT
wow, nice idea. the naruzgons mobs can be control for the tanks anway (it's not a Must have PMs in party), and more 5 in the caster level can be nice for others normal mobs VS a DEMIGOD* once that a pure wizard 68 sp cannot beat sr 92 alone, and with 68+5 = 73 also anyway.
With modenkain disjuction +10 will put the caster VS SR 90+ (mobs like Naruzgons) with 50% chance of hit instead the current 25%..
I liked of the idea.
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Post by velikibaatezu on May 26, 2007 7:26:02 GMT
Yes pm is not must have in a party as much as a ''normal' mage isnt. While sorc or wiz will bigby, pm will wail and weird. As for the naruzgons, they are made to increase pale masters usefulness , not to lead to update which will benefit wiz/sorc even more. Why to give casters additional benefits from being demi gods while tanks dont get anything extra then eh? +2 to all stats benefits casters already , and +2 more then for a ''second'' demi god status is quite a lot. Keep in mind also caster bards would get far less wanted, with additional +5 spell pen, that is excatly what you get from caster bard curse song, so you'd kill use of one class and improve one that needs not improvements.
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Post by FunkySwerve on May 27, 2007 0:59:11 GMT
As for the naruzgons, they are made to increase pale masters usefulness , not to lead to update which will benefit wiz/sorc even more. You should be careful when claiming that certain additions were made for one reason and one only, as we rarely do anything like that, and almost nothing in life is that black and white. You're better off arguing cause and effect of a proposed change than you are guessing at our reasons (although that certainly was one reason for the narzes). That said, adding casterlevels to demis would pretty much destroy all the balancing we do to make splashing cost a build something. Rescaling all spells to undo that damage, just doesn't appeal. Funky
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