Post by alandrian on Jun 10, 2007 11:43:33 GMT
Hi. First of all I have the Howler race, so I might be a bit biased. I really like this race and his appearance. But on the other sides I think its a bit underpowered for a BUR race. Not saying its weak but just comparing it to other BUR races.
Howler gets netto +6 to his stats, while all other BUR races beside Juggernaut (who gets +8) get at least +10 to +12 even.
I am quite aware that the +2 con from dwarf will stack with the +6 con he gets already, but you can do a dwarven Maelpahnt or Elf Half-Fiend to gain +8 to an stat too, so i guess it should be no reason. With Howler you are even forced to take dwarf while other races are more versatile.
Howler gets 2 times -3, so an odd number. Which means you are either forced to put points in those stats to even them out or get the mali like -4 to that stat.
Compared to the imho next closest race Maelphant you get 2 points more in strength, which is very nice, but you lose 6(!) points in wis and cha. An Half-Ork Maelphant would just lose 4 points in int and char with the same resulting str. Both get toughness. Howler gets weaponprof, Mael Armorprof. Not big difference here i guess, maybe with a small plus to Howler. As rest Howler gets dodge which is quite nice. Mael gets 2 epic feats which are useful for some classes like Barbarian (Hope the Focus counts into Terrifying Rage), while dodge is nice for DD. So its quite even featwise i think.
None gets SR or the ability to save a ringslot (walk on quicksand/breath water) so no diff here.
Howler is limited to dwarf while Mael can be any race. A great plus for Mael to be more versatile.
Another great plus is that Mael gets large character size. No need to tell more about that i guess. (gnomen Mael anyone? Large char with +1 AC small statue bonus ?)
So all in all I think Howler is far from weak but compared to other BUR races maybe you could drop the char and wis mali to -2 each. Or add +2 to dex, although that would not change much due to the fact most howlers will want to wear fullplate anyway. But it would bring the stats a bit more in tune to the other BURs.
As a small sidenote: Afaik although Howler can not speak Abyssal, they can at least understand it. So they should maybe get the language.
Howler gets netto +6 to his stats, while all other BUR races beside Juggernaut (who gets +8) get at least +10 to +12 even.
I am quite aware that the +2 con from dwarf will stack with the +6 con he gets already, but you can do a dwarven Maelpahnt or Elf Half-Fiend to gain +8 to an stat too, so i guess it should be no reason. With Howler you are even forced to take dwarf while other races are more versatile.
Howler gets 2 times -3, so an odd number. Which means you are either forced to put points in those stats to even them out or get the mali like -4 to that stat.
Compared to the imho next closest race Maelphant you get 2 points more in strength, which is very nice, but you lose 6(!) points in wis and cha. An Half-Ork Maelphant would just lose 4 points in int and char with the same resulting str. Both get toughness. Howler gets weaponprof, Mael Armorprof. Not big difference here i guess, maybe with a small plus to Howler. As rest Howler gets dodge which is quite nice. Mael gets 2 epic feats which are useful for some classes like Barbarian (Hope the Focus counts into Terrifying Rage), while dodge is nice for DD. So its quite even featwise i think.
None gets SR or the ability to save a ringslot (walk on quicksand/breath water) so no diff here.
Howler is limited to dwarf while Mael can be any race. A great plus for Mael to be more versatile.
Another great plus is that Mael gets large character size. No need to tell more about that i guess. (gnomen Mael anyone? Large char with +1 AC small statue bonus ?)
So all in all I think Howler is far from weak but compared to other BUR races maybe you could drop the char and wis mali to -2 each. Or add +2 to dex, although that would not change much due to the fact most howlers will want to wear fullplate anyway. But it would bring the stats a bit more in tune to the other BURs.
As a small sidenote: Afaik although Howler can not speak Abyssal, they can at least understand it. So they should maybe get the language.