New Quasi Class Suggestion

[Midnite [UE]]

Class: Planar Summoner

Description: The Planar Summoner uses both his or her divine power, and his arcane knowledge to create a link into another Plane Of Existence and draw forth a life force of another creature, binding it to himself or herself for a time. They focus mainly on spells that are used to protect themselves and there summoned allies, or party members.


The purpose of this Quasi Class: To be a support character with the ability to buff other characters and self, but also add an extra amount of melee support with the summons. Healing spells and Bigby's are other purposes this build may have so that if the summon were to get killed in combat, it still had other significant uses.


Requirements:

Must have all of the following by level 25
Spell Focus Conjuration/Greater Spell Focus Conjuration/Epic Spell Focus Conjuration
Quicken Spell Feat
13 levels of cleric/ 12 levels of sorceror
Base 20 Wisdom, Base 20 Cha
Good Alignment Or Evil Alignment (Cannot be Neutral)
SpellCraft 30 *Base the power of the summons on Spellcraft*

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Suggested Design:
Upon reaching Planar Summoner quasi at level 21 or 24, they are automatically given Automatic Quicken Spell 3 for there knowledge of having to be quick in battle to summon there Denizens. They are also give the Epic Spell Focus Spellcraft feat.

Good Alignment Summons:
Spellcraft 30: Astral Deva *Patrons of planar travelers and powerful creatures undertaking good causes.*
Spellcraft 45: Monadic Deva *Stoic watchers of the Ethereal Plane and the Elemental Planes.*
Spellcraft 60: Movanic Deva *Celestial infantry serving the Positive Energy Plane, the Negative Energy Plane, and the Material Plane.*
Spellcraft 75: Planetar *Mightly generals of the celestial armoies that also help the powerful mortals on missions of good, particularly those that involve battles with fiends.*
Spellcraft 100: Solar Angel *The greatest of the angels, usually close attendants to a deity or champions of some cosmically beneficent task.*

Evil Alignment Summons:
Spellcraft 30: Ghargatula *Dinosaurlike guardians with massive maw and a wicked stinger.
Spellcraft 45: Logokron *Delight in learning the personal truenames of their foes, when tormenting them or turning them into slaves.*
Spellcraft 60: Malebranche *Hulking, horned warriors, enforcers, punishers, and mounts.*
Spellcraft 75: Paeliryon *Disquesting spymaster with deforming fingernails.*
Spellcraft 100: Brachinca *Devilish counterpart of the demonic succubus, and an advanced Erinyes.*

Duration Of Summons: Same as the Druid/Ranger Epic Summons whatever it may be.

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Spells *All the following spells cast at Cleric + Sorceror levels*

Cleric Spells:

Level 1:
Shield Of Faith
Endure Elements
Entropic
Cure Light Wounds
Inflict Light Wounds

Level 2:
Resist Elements
Fox's Cunning
Endurance
Eagle's Splendor
Bull's Strength
Aid
Cure Moderate Wounds
Inflict Moderate Wounds

Level 3:
Protection From Elements
Prayer
Magic Vestment
Darkfire
Cure Serious Wounds
Inflict Serious Wounds
Darkfire

Level 4:
Inflict Critical Wounds
Cure Critical Wounds
Greater Magic Weapon
Freedom Of Movement

Level 5:
Spell Resistance
Monstrous Regeneration
Healing Circle

Level 6:
Greater Sanctuary

Level 7:
Regenerate
Greater Restoration
Ressurection

Level 8:
None


Level 9:
Undeath's Eternal Foe

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Sorceror Spells:

Level 1:
Shield
Mage Armor
Endure Elements

Level 2:
Resist Elements
Fox's Cunning
Flameweapon
Endurance
Eagle's Splendor
Cat's Grace
Bull's Strength
Death Armor

Level 3:
Protection From Elements
Keen Edge
Haste
Greater Magic Weapon

Level 4:
Stoneskin
Elemental Shield

Level 5:
Mestil's Acid Sheath
Energy Buffer

Level 6:
Tenser's Transformation
Greater Stoneskin
Globe of Invulnerability
Ethereal Visage

Level 7:
Spell Mantle
Bigby's Grasping Hand
Shadow Shield

Level 8:
Premonition
Greater Sanctuary

Level 9:
Mordenkaiden's Disjunction
Bigby's Crushing Hand
Greater Spell Mantle

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I'm sure there are alot of flaws with this, it might be overpowered.. Not really sure, It was just an idea and I thought maybe I'd throw it out there for thought. Give me critiscm.. Thats what I want.

Note: This Quasi-Class was something I designed after reading about the Thaumaturgist prestige class in the Dungeons Master Guide, Core Rulebook 3.5.

[johannhowitzer]

Might want to lower those WIS/CHA requirements to 18... they're mighty steep for those without UR or better subbies. CON would have to take a big hit.

Also, you have the requirement of 13+12=25 levels, but you say "by level 25" and later that the quasi will be reached at levels 21 or 24. These statements are mutually exclusive.

I also don't see what purpose Quicken Spell serves. You're mainly a buffer, and the summons (which won't be summoned mid-battle most likely anyway) would be summoned via a special item, not a hard-coded spell.

Lastly, having so many buffs at one's disposal is both overpowered and kind of redundant with the Theurge. With mords available, you would be able to manage some successful IGMSing, not to mention a fair bit of damage with EQ if you went the cleric route. Inflicts alone, being sorc+cleric casterlevel, will be too uber if anyone bothers to max Heal skill.

[velikibaatezu]

And bigbys too, maybe to only give it interposing bigby.
Maybe you should shorten list of all buffs you proposed and figure some unique buff/abilty they would get via item/s, and add some weakness/vulnerabilty or whatever to class, well my opinion atleast.Looks overpowered imho

[zerragon]

Theres currently many quasi classes with sorcerors, Id say druid would make a nice option here
as they also fit well with summons/pets abilities.
Also, Animal Emphathy skill could have an effect on summons to further increase the
summon quality.

[atomicsomething]

Looks very much like theurge with that spell selection (on the usefull spells for hells, i only see remove fear missing ), where it's been added the possibility to go full caster level for cheesy protections (Prem and EV) or the possibility to splash pally for very good saves.

Oh, and the summons come free as well .

i find zerr idea interresting to make it Druid based.
The original idea of a summoner is very cool. One way to balance it would be to fuel the summon with Summon Creature I-IX spells, keeping the summon up then consumming those spells in your spellbook. And the better the summon is the higher is the cost.

[nicnik]

Must be healing domain; kinda makes sense i think

But tbh i think it shud be Druid based. Druids are more of summoners if u think about it. and well, druids need love.

[Midnite [UE]]

I'll rethink it alot... with the comments, I thought about druid, however druids are more natural casters, plus they already get epic summons. The summons I posted *not to mention the actualy prestige class from DnD* Based it on cleric because your summoning divine/dark type creatures, with a druid your still going to get the same epic summons, and they will be animal based.. and the type of animal wouldnt be evil or good, it woudl just depend on the alignment of the caster that would make the so.. However if you went cleric, your alignment would effect it alot more imo.

Another reason I chose sorceror is because even if you choose to go sorc based, the spells that get cleric + sorc as caster level are mainly buffed based, except for the bigbys, so your really not going to get much damage out of the sorc part.. however I can see where a combo of mords + cleric spells would overpower something, since clerics have access to more spells, and can change them around at will.

Midnite
But thinks for the comments and Ill rethink it.

[fragment]

WRT use of base classes for quasi classes, theurge, lifethreader and slinger are already cleric based.

A shifter who can't actually be used as a shifter, maybe

[Midnite [UE]]

Trying to use shifter as base race is kind of difficult.. seeing as the power of the shifter is based on wisdom/druid/shifter levels.. So even at the cost of feats.. you would still come out in the end with a shifter.. just have a summon.. lol. Im sure there is a way to go about it.. but I still liked the idea of using a cleric, it just seemed more a match when summoning this from different planes.. lol

Midnite

[DragonChyld]

Well there is this

dragonchyld said:

Quasi-Class: Demon Consort -REWORKED-

Reworked this, Took some suggestions from this thread, Thanks guys!! Edits from original are in Red

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REQUIREMENTS
12 levels of specialist Wizard (Enchantment)
10 Levels of Barbarian both by 24
Charisma of 16
Gender Specific (Female)
Alignment: Any Evil

~FEATS~
Greater Spell Focus Enchantment

~Sample Class Background~
Born to a Barbarian tribe you have always used your charms to get what you want out of life. It was no suprise to you when you were picked at a young age to learn to commune with the Spirit Elders. You were both Fascinated and bored... You wanted something more. When your Barbarian Tribe encounted a Lone Wizard on the road and overtook him they broke his hands... But not his spirit. Intrigued you learned how to read and all you could from him before he died.. Then you set out on a deeper journey..

Becoming a Demon Consort means exactly that, you have used you knowledge, charm and toughness to summon and consort with a Balor. You are granted several special abilitys upon doing this.

Upon becoming a Consort:
-Spell DCs for all spells are equal to 10 + spell level + (CON modifier)
-For all spells, casterlevels and Spell penetration are equal to Wizard level + (Barbarian level/3)
-You receive a Permanent -4 CON, -2 STR, and -2 DEX
-Gains the Hellstone item.

~ The Hellstone ~
A Demon Consort may cast any summon creature spell of level 4 or higher into her Hellstone. This will trigger the Hellstone's power and open a gate to hell which a demon, responding to the consorts call, will come through, and aid the Consort for a Number of rounds Equal to the Consort's CHA modifier +1 round per 2 levelsx2 AFTER Becoming a Consort, to a maximum of (CHA mod + 19)x2.

~ Summon Creature IV
Summons a Real Shadow Demon to serve the caster

~ Summon Creature V
Summons a Real Vrock to serve the caster

~ Summon Creature VI
Summons a Real Hezrou to serve the caster

~ Summon Creature VII
Summons a Real Nabassu to serve the caster

~ Summon Creature VIII
Summons a Real Babau to serve the caster

~ Summon Creature IX
Summons a Real Glabrezu to serve the caster

~ Special ~
The Epic Spell Ensnare True Denizen Works Differently for Consorts. The Duration of the spell uses the same formula as above.

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Balance Rationale
Changing the Spell Ability to con may at first seem overpowered, However as you Become a Consort you take a permanent -4 to CON. Your offensive spellcasting capabilitys become weakened. Your other physical attributes will become affected as well. I switched the Spell DC's from 9/10 con mod, to straight con to take into effect the fact that the con loss is now perm, Also based the durations of the summons off of CHA as per Borts suggestion, thus forcing the Consort to make some tough Decisions. Your goal is to simply stay alive while your Servant provides the power your party is missing from you.

~ DC

And then This

acaos said:

Unfortunately, a summoning quasiclass is a -ton- of work. That's one of the reasons ideas from Hulking Curse and Demon Consort were combined into the Pariah.

Acaos

[Midnite [UE]]

ahh I see.. apparently I didnt look far enough into the threads to realize this... Thanks DC, saved me alot of work that would've been a waste of time.