Druid Help

[aommaster1069]

Edits in red.
OK now for another one of my lousy builds I put the base on the HG Druid Caster but edited it to my extent to help fit in Paladin for the extra saves. Tell me how to improve this build so it wont suck in LL areas and I can play my heart out to its full extent OK here goes:

Race - Human
Subrace - Thri-Kreen
Strength - 10
Dexterity - 8
Consitution - 15
Wisdom - 18
Intelligence - 12
Charisma - 8

You are going to have to change alignment a few times. Once to meet the requirements for Paladin then back to druid. The last time will be when you have to meet the requirements for monk then back to druid. Overall this seems like a pretty nice build in the testing chamber but I need your guys help so I can improve on creating my own builds to the fullest.

Level Progression/Feat Progression
01 Druid - Toughness, Spell Penetration
02 Paladin - Basic Paladin Free Feats
03 Druid - Combat Casting
04 Druid -
05 Druid -
06 Druid - Greater Spell Penetration
07 Druid -
08 Druid -
09 Druid - Spell Focus Evocation
10 Druid -
11 Druid -
12 Druid - Greater Spell Focus Evocation
13 Druid -
14 Druid -
15 Druid - Spell Focus NecromancySpell Focus Transmutation
16 Druid -
17 Druid -
18 Druid - Greater Spell Focus NecromancyGreater Spell Focus Transmutation
19 Druid -
20 Druid -
21 Druid - Epic Spell Penetration
22 Druid -
23 Druid -
24 Druid - Improved Combat Casting
25 Druid - Great Wisdom 1
26 Druid -
27 Druid - Silent Spell
28 Druid -
29 Druid - Great Wisdom 2
30 Druid - Great Wisdom 3
31 Druid -
32 Druid -
33 Druid - Epic Spell Focus Evocation, Epic Spell Focus NecromancyEpic Spell Focus Evocation, Epic Spell Focus Tranmutation
34 Druid -
35 Druid -
36 Druid - Great Wisdom 4
37 Druid - Great Wisdom 5
38 Druid -
39 Druid -
40 Monk - Basic Monk Free Feats

For Legendary Feats I would take Great Wisdom 5 - 10 and if you can squeeze in the new Legendary save feats take them by this order (if you can get them all in):
Reflex Save Feat
Fortitude Save Feat
Will Save Feat

Level 40 naked abilities
Armor Class - 32
Hitpoints - 366
Fortitude - 25
Reflex - 20
Will - 33
DC - 30
Tell me if the edits are better than the old build.

[chainlink]

Will save feat is not necessary and you'd be better of sacrificing some of those Great Wis feats for spell focus as any self respecting druid should have access to shunt, dust to dust and another couple of epics at the very least. You will not need max wisdom for a druid (for reasons that have been discussed on other posts).

[aommaster1069]

I just replaced 3 Great Wisdom feats with SF, GSF, and ESF transmutation. Took my Will save down to 32 and my AC down 1 but I believe it is well worth it if you think it is.
Thanks,
aommaster1069

[tyranlthixis]

Ditching wisdom feats for epic spells may be a thing of the past. Recent changes to natures balance have carved out a whole new role for druids. The high DC druid is the newest thing now! Failure to get legendary transmutation and 10 wisdom will leave you with fewer option (especially in the hardest areas). Dust to dust is still nice, but its usefulness is greatly decreased as you go further down in the hells since the top 4-5 demons are all petri immune......then you'll be wishing you could provide some caster support for all the nasties with uber SR. Frailty is still important but its a one trick pony. I find myself holding frailty back in situations where SR reduction could really help the group just because I'm trying to manage my rest ring and wishing my natures balance dc was a tad higher. Anyhow thats my 2 cents.

Tyran

[thedomicron]

i would suggest feats in transmutation and evocation, and then reading the book in abjuration for the third epic feat.

i have a warm place in my heart for thri-druids cuz i had a shortlived, terribly built but fun to play one (sonya blade RIP)

anyhow yeah good luck

[bort]

Interesting point from Tyran..

aommaster1069 said:

I just replaced 3 Great Wisdom feats with SF, GSF, and ESF transmutation. Took my Will save down to 32 and my AC down 1 but I believe it is well worth it if you think it is.
Thanks,
aommaster1069

Monk (wisdom) AC is lost when you equip anything heavier than robes or when you equip a shield. I could be wrong, but I got the impression that most Druids wore heavy plate and a shield partly because AC is actually higher that way and partly for the immunities.

Also bear in mind that you want your Wisdom to end as an even number; otherwise you've wasted a feat.
Eg; 51 Wisdom is actually no better than 50 Wisdom, because it's your Wisdom modifier (Wisdom -10 / 2) that is used to calculate spell DCs.

You get 7 feats in Legendary levels. For Legendary save feats, you're required to have the pre-epic version of the feat (Lightning Reflexes for Legendary Reflexes, Iron Will for Legendary Will, Great Fortitude for Legendary Fortitude and Luck of Heroes for Legendary Luck of Heroes).
I would definately take these 2 Reflex feats if I were you, as that will be your weakest save. I might also take the Fortitude feats too, or maybe just Epic Fortitude.

P.s. I see you've started with 15 Con - If you take a Great Constitution feat before legendary levels you should get another 60 hitpoints. Otherwise there's no real point in having 15 Con over 14 Con (Need to keep them in even numbers - it's the modifier that counts).

[aommaster1069]

Then I shouldn't replace the Great Wisdom feats for SF, GSF, and ESF Transmutation? Or just replace Transmutation with Necromancy? I am somewhat confused about this as this will be the build I plan on playing in the LLs (Would be my first 60 ). Edits made to the original post

[thedomicron]

i suggest you drop necromancy all together and replace those feats with spell focus transmutation. necromancy does nothing for you, and the new change to the way petrification immunity makes dust to dust somewhat obsolete.