Undead Monk(26M/4Ba/10PM)

[helbrax]

I've been playing this build for a while, and so far my lack of really good Kamas has crippled the build. I'm only level 35 or so now, so I'll adjust everything as I go forward. Probably should have just opted for fist damage instead of dual wielding. I really like the idea of the build, but I just need some ideas about how to fix some of the weak areas.

Human: Bugbear

Starting Stats:
Starting[Subrace]
All stat points into DEX
Strength: 8[10]
Dexterity: 18[20]{33 at level 40}
Constitution: 10[12]
Wisdom: 12[12]
Intelligence: 15[12]
Charisma: 8[5]

Level progression:
26 Monk
3 Bard
10 Pale Master
1 Bard

I messed up somewhere and took an extra feat or a feat out of place and ended up screwing up selections and was forced to take epic toughness as a bonus feat. I believe below is the proper selection i should have followed.

40 Humanoid - Bugbear: (Quick to Master)
M 01: Monk(1): Luck of Heros, Toughness, {Cleave, Evasion, Improved Unarmed Strike, Stunning Fist}
M 02: Monk(2): {Deflect Arrows}
M 03: Monk(3): Weapon Finesse
M 04: Monk(4): DEX+1, (DEX=21)
M 05: Monk(5)
M 06: Monk(6): Weapon focus: Kama, {Knockdown, Improved Knockdown}
M 07: Monk(7)
M 08: Monk(8): DEX+1, (DEX=22)
M 09: Monk(9): Two-Weapon Fighting, {Improved Evasion}
M 10: Monk(10)
M 11: Monk(11)
M 12: Monk(12): DEX+1, Ambidexterity, (DEX=23)
M 13: Monk(13)
M 14: Monk(14)
M 15: Monk(15): Improved Two-Weapon Fighting
M 16: Monk(16): DEX+1, (DEX=24)
M 17: Monk(17)
M 18: Monk(18): Improved Critical: Kama
M 19: Monk(19)
M 20: Monk(20): DEX+1, (DEX=25)
M 21: Monk(21): Great Dexterity I, (DEX=26)
M 22: Monk(22)
M 23: Monk(23)
M 24: Monk(24): DEX+1, Great Dexterity II, (DEX=28)
M 25: Monk(25): Armor Skin
M 26: Monk(26)
Ba 27: Bard(1): Great Dexterity III, (DEX=29), *Alignment Change*
Ba 28: Bard(2): DEX+1, (DEX=30)
Ba 29: Bard(3)
PM 30: Pale Master(1): Self Concealment I
PM 31: Pale Master(2)
PM 32: Pale Master(3): DEX+1, {Darkvision}, (DEX=31)
PM 33: Pale Master(4): Self Concealment II
PM 34: Pale Master(5)
PM 35: Pale Master(6)
PM 36: Pale Master(7): DEX+1, Self Concealment III, (DEX=32)
PM 37: Pale Master(8)
PM 38: Pale Master(9)
PM 39: Pale Master(10): Self Concealment IV
Ba 40: Bard(4): DEX+1, (DEX=33)

Skills:
Max Concentrate, Discipline, and Tumble on Monk levels. Put hide at 30 for SC.
Max Tumble on Bard Levels. Put extra points in UMD or PP if you want.
Max Spell Craft on Pale Master Levels.

Pros:
7 attacks per round. 8 hasted. 9 with flurry and haste
Decent AC
Immune to critical hits, sneak attacks, paralyze, hold, stun, mind affecting spells.
Improved Evasion
Self concealment
Empty body for improved concealment for a short time.
Decent saves.
Increased movement Speed
Innate SR of 36 at level 40. Improved in LL but can be dispelled I believe.

Cons.
Low damage. Really. You need really good Kamas. However, if you have some good monk gloves, you can switch between the two if necessary.
Low HP.
Low AB. At level 40 ab is only in the high 30s

[starlandra]

for anything other than a fist monk I have gotten to the point where you have to splash wm to make the damage worth anything. Which of course tosses out your pm. What is the reason you are using pm?

[helbrax]

The initial thought for the PM was the increased AC(+6 for 10 PM levels) and for the immunities. But as I began playing, I realized that all of those immunities I was getting from items anyway, so I really just ended up with the extra AC.

I guess I'm just trying to see if I can salvage this build or should I just scrub it.

[helbrax]

Basically the build excels right now at doing minimal or no damage to a foe, yet remaining untouched and rez's tanks when they fall. Between my ac, empty body and sc, I'm pretty hard to hit.

[dodrudon]

Have you gone to Mana and farther yet? I was thinking of doing a similar build, but strength based fists with maybe more PM levels for more AC, and I'd be interested in hearing any observations you have.

[helbrax]

Not sure what you mean by Mana. I'm still relatively new so I'm not familar with all the shorthand. Do you mean the drow city for xul/lolth runs? If so, yes I've gone there.

With my current kamas(store bought pieces of crap) I was doing nothing. With good gloves though, I was doing decent damage. At level 35 with no rare gear, only uncommon, I have about 93 ac, so I was generally doing pretty good in the AC department.

I have two level 39 kamas that are just begging to be used. If I had some decent kamas for my level, this build wouldn't be so bad actually. Damage has really been the only thing on this build that has been so terrible it's been difficult to play.

[helbrax]

Ok. I just got a hand-axe I can use in my offhand that does similar damage to what my level 39 kamas would be doing. I must say I am liking this build MUCH more.